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Silly Rumor? or is CCP sharing pilot information with Homeland Security?

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Doomheim
#1 - 2011-10-16 23:29:09 UTC
So, chatting in EVE today I am told that CCP turns over all of our chat logs, personal fittings, notes, bookmarks, and other assorted information to the Department of Homeland Security every so often.

This is a joke right?


I have nothing to hide, but it seems like a wholly necessary thing to do since CCP is in a different sovereign nation than the DHS.

Clarification from CCP?
shashe sin
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-10-16 23:31:33 UTC
lol....
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-16 23:32:26 UTC
Oh, they already know you have nothing to hide.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2011-10-16 23:32:49 UTC
Here is some clarification for you. Don't believe anything you hear. Silly Americans..Roll

[i]~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~   ~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~[/i]
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
#5 - 2011-10-16 23:33:24 UTC
Which homeland are you refferring to?
Rene Fullchest
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-10-16 23:34:25 UTC
(Said in the very best Bugs Bunny voice-over...)

What a maroon!
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-16 23:35:54 UTC
makes as much sense as an AUSTRIAN KANGAROO

Australian Fanfest Event https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=90062
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2011-10-16 23:35:57 UTC
*doesn't know whether to laugh or cry*
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#9 - 2011-10-16 23:36:12 UTC
wat
Cire XIII
Filthy Peasants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#10 - 2011-10-16 23:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Cire XIII
It's pretty well known and established that agencies such as the FBI have teams dedicated to monitoring MMOs and other online forums (read communities) for suspicious activities. Think of all the extended metaphors for an "event" that could be conveyed in a game setting without raising suspicion.

Now logs and the companies themselves working hand in hand with the feds. That would seem unlikely, but :tinfoil:


EDIT: added a link so it didn't look like I was just blowing smoke. clicky
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-10-16 23:50:15 UTC
Wot I Think wrote:
So, chatting in EVE today I am told that CCP turns over all of our chat logs, personal fittings, notes, bookmarks, and other assorted information to the Department of Homeland Security every so often.

This is a joke right?


I have nothing to hide, but it seems like a wholly necessary thing to do since CCP is in a different sovereign nation than the DHS.

Clarification from CCP?



Paranoia, Paranoia, everybody's coming to get me...
Sebero Sinak
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-10-16 23:52:07 UTC
In our ongoing attempts to become more informed on these matters , i and my team have designed detachable , very durable

( used freezer grade foil ) wings for our hats and glided into a small airport on the Canadian border.

Overcoming canadian security was easy ( they were drinking Molson and watching "That 70's Show" ) and never noticed us.

We found no evidence of information trafficing between Iceland and the USA....of course if you know what it looks like that would help.
mkint
#13 - 2011-10-16 23:53:34 UTC
u suck @ trollin

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Ramacliv
Ramacliv's IRA
#14 - 2011-10-16 23:59:06 UTC
Actually only if they feel the need to they subpoena the logs for a certain time frame. The actual truth is they have a program running that "reports" key words in conversations alerting authorities who then further monitor or even subpoena records. Sadly this is done without our or the chat host's knowledge or consent. They also scan message boards using the same program. Taking it a bit further certain words, phrases, and discussions get your user name/ID put on a list and red flagged for monitoring more closely.

Whether you believe it or not big brother is out there listening in and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it. The future is here and welcome to the paranoia.
Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#15 - 2011-10-17 00:02:58 UTC
Dunno about DHS but maybe for advertisement purposes. The other night I was talking with someone about employment opportunities in the mining sector. Rio Tinto and BHP Biliiton were mentioned a few times now my Yahoo home page is full of Rio Tinto ads looking to fill positions across Canada.What?

Yeeee! 
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#16 - 2011-10-17 00:03:58 UTC
I don't know about you, but I don't think Homeland Security has any use with my bookmarks that lead to asteroid belt pixels (unless they are playing Eve Online too and are just scared of me competing against them).

Adapt or Die
Ascendant Sean
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-10-17 00:05:28 UTC
Confirming that an Icelandic company, with servers based in London, would hand over all data to an American bureau. For no reason. Without a warrant. And without informing those affected.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-10-17 00:05:36 UTC
Ramacliv wrote:
Actually only if they feel the need to they subpoena the logs for a certain time frame. The actual truth is they have a program running that "reports" key words in conversations alerting authorities who then further monitor or even subpoena records. Sadly this is done without our or the chat host's knowledge or consent. They also scan message boards using the same program. Taking it a bit further certain words, phrases, and discussions get your user name/ID put on a list and red flagged for monitoring more closely.

Whether you believe it or not big brother is out there listening in and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it. The future is here and welcome to the paranoia.




really big bombs. Bin ladin. Bin ladin's brother. Your mother. Death to America. Hate...freedoms and happiness. jihad jihad. Hairy women are the best.

Am i going to recieve a knock on the door over this. 
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-10-17 00:05:53 UTC
Kehro Urgus wrote:
Dunno about DHS but maybe for advertisement purposes. The other night I was talking with someone about employment opportunities in the mining sector. Rio Tinto and BHP Biliiton were mentioned a few times now my Yahoo home page is full of Rio Tinto ads looking to fill positions across Canada.What?


This may interest you dood, Rio are selling some Aus assets to expand with Alcan

Australian Fanfest Event https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=90062
Sebero Sinak
Doomheim
#20 - 2011-10-17 00:06:28 UTC
Ramacliv wrote:
Actually only if they feel the need to they subpoena the logs for a certain time frame. The actual truth is they have a program running that "reports" key words in conversations alerting authorities who then further monitor or even subpoena records. Sadly this is done without our or the chat host's knowledge or consent. They also scan message boards using the same program. Taking it a bit further certain words, phrases, and discussions get your user name/ID put on a list and red flagged for monitoring more closely.

Whether you believe it or not big brother is out there listening in and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it. The future is here and welcome to the paranoia.


Many public ( public in this case means funded by small educational grants and private foundations and viewers) tv stations in usa have discussed this issue - the privacy vs public safety thing...so far the FBI is free to monitor world wide electronic communications and does.

Careful you don't hit the wrong button selecting your porn and get flagged for something really deviate.
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