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ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#21 - 2012-09-27 17:53:00 UTC
Robbin Sund wrote:
ISD Athechu wrote:
Robbin Sund wrote:
Hello there, first of all, day 3, contacted and helped by a GM and many other peoples all around the place.
Soon having a Exequtor and everything is going grand.

I have been reading around as much as I can, so much info! I LOVE IT.
at the moment I am mining, its fun to try to optimize the gain and all that.
But I am limited to trial stuff atm, doing the best I can for now, after that, I might be a fully functional EVE-player.

First question, easy one here.
Lowsec and nullsec, is there any stations to sell stuff at?
Or do I need to haul myself back to highsec to get into a station everytime I have taken a visit?
(No corp-player that is)



First off great to hear and glad that you are enjoying it :).

To answer your question yes both low sec and null sec have stations where you can buy things from. The one thing to note though about low sec/null sec though is that usually stations were a decent amount of people are living are the places where items are seeded. Now in terms of safety since you can be shot in both locations by pirates or null sec dwellers it isn't always a good idea to run to those station and buy an item. There isn't really any trade hubs as you know or see in hi-sec. So sometimes people bring or haul items(from hi-sec) out to the station where their alliance/corporation is based out of and put it on the market.

Now not all stations in null sec (player owned space) is accessible unless you have Blue standing with the alliance that owns that station. If you look at null sec (NPC) that is open and free to you.

I'm not going to touch the 2nd question as it gets into my personal opinions on the topic and that's not what i'm here for.



Thanks for the answer, fancy Icon around your avatar. ;) had to wiki it up.
God I love to chew info, even if not everything sticks right away.

So with other words, actually living solo out in lowsec or nullsec is not to possible. If I dont manage to find an alliance that actually can bother to let me hang around and sell stuff to them eh?
Interesting to see if I manage to persuade someone to let me sell and trade around their parts.

Or if I just go in there, mine and get the hell out of there to a nearby station I after that call home.


As Jim said null is hard mostly since people just want to shoot you since you would be neutral.

Low sec is a bit easier as usually there are pockets and stations where no one lives. But again the down side is that resources for that area will be minimal or at outrageous prices. So if your goal is to live in low sec I would recommend having a good amount of supplies ready or have some way to produce them yourself.

Playing with a group(corporation or alliance) is sometimes easier as you have people to back you up or more experienced pilots with alts that can bring in supplies for you. That plus its a few less people you have to worry about...........typically......sometimes.......just be careful in low/null sec.

If you do live in low sec and engage in PVP Combat you end up getting security status hits and if it drops too low then you aren't able to enter hi-sec anymore with out the police attempting to kill you or if it's below -5.0 players will attempt as well.

ISD Athechu

STAR Executive

EVE New Citizens Q&A Resources

Helping Players Since 2011
Robbin Sund
#22 - 2012-09-27 17:54:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Robbin Sund
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
I like your positive, I want to learn it all now attitude!! Big smile

Go slow on your ships, I cannot stress this enough!! I know the Cruisers, BC's and BS's look cool, but looking kewl in a 100 mil ISK ship with no skilz is asking for a quick trip to a medical bay. Of course you are free to ignore this, I know I did. I rushed right to Battleships, bought one, lost one and went back to frigs. Found out frigs are not that bad!! Blink

Low sec, is cess pit of some of the worst pirite scum you will ever meet, and also can be a lot of fun. Shocked

Here is the number one tip for surviving in low sec, you have that nice kewl map tool, use it, you can find out all kinds of great info, like, how many ships destroyed in last hour and 24 hours, also same with pods. Take the 5 mins it will take you to learn that map tool.

Now # 2 tip for going to low sec, local channel watch it at all times, when someone pops in, look at their info, you are looking for people that have - sec status, do not become their victim by ignoring they are there, move your ship, or hide and play cat and mouse. Low sec is much better then high sec at getting good sec status by ratting, but never ever trust anyone with - sec status, not even if she claims to be your mother. Anyways, do not be afraid to go to low sec.

Also, any corp that ask for an application fee, they will be trying to steal your ISK. You have been warned.


Have fun happy flying and keep up the great attitude!!Big smile


Thanks for that, so if I somehow manage to kill someone with - sec status do I gain status myself then?

Aye, thats why I havnt gone trial-upgrade yet, I know i will just rush a few ships I cant reach atm as trial
So by staying trial I dont get ahead over myself... yet. ;D
Hm, I also gotta try survive in lowsec, seems interesting to learn what my ships can handle and what not.

Is lowsec really that kill-on-sight or is it just some people? (might depends on the ships I run also)
how do I see if people have died in that area? just hoover over icons?

One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Robbin Sund
#23 - 2012-09-27 18:02:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Robbin Sund
ISD Athechu wrote:

As Jim said null is hard mostly since people just want to shoot you since you would be neutral.

Low sec is a bit easier as usually there are pockets and stations where no one lives. But again the down side is that resources for that area will be minimal or at outrageous prices. So if your goal is to live in low sec I would recommend having a good amount of supplies ready or have some way to produce them yourself.

Playing with a group(corporation or alliance) is sometimes easier as you have people to back you up or more experienced pilots with alts that can bring in supplies for you. That plus its a few less people you have to worry about...........typically......sometimes.......just be careful in low/null sec.

If you do live in low sec and engage in PVP Combat you end up getting security status hits and if it drops too low then you aren't able to enter hi-sec anymore with out the police attempting to kill you or if it's below -5.0 players will attempt as well.


But in lowsec, if someone open fire on me, do I have the "right" to return fire without losing security stats?
if my pod die, will I be revived at closest station or the one where my last clone was made (or the starterclone in this scenario)
As it is now, I dont lose anything when I die, my skills are lower then the 900k my clone is holding. and I got no implants. :)
isnt it better to let them burn my pod as well if I am to far away?

And.. since the prices are worse, wouldnt it mean some people buy it higher also, then in normal areas?

One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Jim Era
#24 - 2012-09-27 18:12:12 UTC
The prices are higher due to the risk that, you hauling in this 50mil in cargo to go sell, but the pirates kill you instead. You just lost that, so you now have to make up for it on your next load.

Also, it takes a lot longer than trial to get into decent ships.
stay in frigs/cruisers for a while. Learn the skills to properly pilot those perfectly, then you will be able to remotely decently fly a battleship.

Wat™
ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#25 - 2012-09-27 18:13:12 UTC
Robbin Sund wrote:
ISD Athechu wrote:

As Jim said null is hard mostly since people just want to shoot you since you would be neutral.

Low sec is a bit easier as usually there are pockets and stations where no one lives. But again the down side is that resources for that area will be minimal or at outrageous prices. So if your goal is to live in low sec I would recommend having a good amount of supplies ready or have some way to produce them yourself.

Playing with a group(corporation or alliance) is sometimes easier as you have people to back you up or more experienced pilots with alts that can bring in supplies for you. That plus its a few less people you have to worry about...........typically......sometimes.......just be careful in low/null sec.

If you do live in low sec and engage in PVP Combat you end up getting security status hits and if it drops too low then you aren't able to enter hi-sec anymore with out the police attempting to kill you or if it's below -5.0 players will attempt as well.


But in lowsec, if someone open fire on me, do I have the "right" to return fire without losing security stats?
if my pod die, will I be revived at closest station or the one where my last clone was made (or the starterclone in this scenario)
As it is now, I dont lose anything when I die, my skills are lower then the 900k my clone is holding. and I got no implants. :)
isnt it better to let them burn my pod as well if I am to far away?

And.. since the prices are worse, wouldnt it mean some people buy it higher also, then in normal areas?


All of that is correct so it's possible to make good ISK that way but again need to find an area where pilots will need the materials.

If you don't have implants then there isn't much to lose. Most people try to save their implants though.

ISD Athechu

STAR Executive

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Helping Players Since 2011
Robert De'Arneth
#26 - 2012-09-27 18:34:41 UTC
Each area of low sec is differant, some are safe and you can gow hours without seeing anyone, some you have gangs, lone pirites flying thru all the time. *shrug* Low sec, unless they are in your alliance, they are not your freind. Get that into your thoughts, there are people who will fleet up with you, act like your freind, and when you attention is gone for just a second, blow you up.


I know you are thinking, holy crap is this guy paranoid, but paranoia saves your ship and implants.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Robbin Sund
#27 - 2012-09-27 19:05:26 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Each area of low sec is differant, some are safe and you can gow hours without seeing anyone, some you have gangs, lone pirites flying thru all the time. *shrug* Low sec, unless they are in your alliance, they are not your freind. Get that into your thoughts, there are people who will fleet up with you, act like your freind, and when you attention is gone for just a second, blow you up.


I know you are thinking, holy crap is this guy paranoid, but paranoia saves your ship and implants.


Oh well, why wont they just attack me right away then? and I cant just shoot people or ignore them right away...
:| cant they just shoot me once and let me burn them?

If I dont have anything of value to lose, I dont see the loss in fleeting with someone, I might learn something (besides backstab that probably will occur) or see something nice, who knows.. I might manage to get a good timing on him instead?

One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Robbin Sund
#28 - 2012-09-27 19:07:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Robbin Sund
also, if anyone got an answer to this question I would be happy.

Pirates, npc ones.
I have been starting to hunt them with my "weaponship" once I spot something.
They are sadly rare in asteroidbelts around this newbie zone.
And scanning (Exploring) is rather slow, finding the damn training sites mostly.
Guess that it will be easier to spot npc pirates in highsec around 0.5 or 0.6 perhaps? maby even easier to find those anomaly or how its spelled? : )

I want to test some combat, but prefer npcs over players for now, unti l actually know my ship a bit better.

will I meet npc-pirates that fly "normal" ships like player would?


On a sidenote
My skills to use an Exeq should be ready tomorrow, 4 hours left, sadly I cant stay up 1 in the morning.. will be going up early to jump around and buy one.. ooohh... excited! :DD
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One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Jim Era
#29 - 2012-09-27 19:09:14 UTC
Run security missions.
Free pirate kills.

Wat™
Robbin Sund
#30 - 2012-09-27 19:10:56 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
Run security missions.
Free pirate kills.


Security missions hm?
Can I find more of them once I am done with the tutorial ones? (if there is any)
if I got it right there is agents around the systems.
Security system missions, sounds like killing pirates is the main goal.

One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Jim Era
#31 - 2012-09-27 19:13:32 UTC
Yea, just use your agent locator, its by the agent window that is the right bottom side of the screen.
Little tiny black bar above the current agents
It should already be on L1 agents and should show you where they are sorted by nearest-farthest.
Just find one (probably several in your system) and keep running missions for them, eventually you will unlock L2 L3 L4 etc

Wat™
Jim Era
#32 - 2012-09-27 19:14:25 UTC
I do recommend though, watch out if the mission is to kill amarr/caldari npc's it will lower your standing with each race accordingly...that is only if you plan on doing missions for them in the future.

Wat™
Robert De'Arneth
#33 - 2012-09-27 19:16:04 UTC
Robbin Sund wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Each area of low sec is differant, some are safe and you can gow hours without seeing anyone, some you have gangs, lone pirites flying thru all the time. *shrug* Low sec, unless they are in your alliance, they are not your freind. Get that into your thoughts, there are people who will fleet up with you, act like your freind, and when you attention is gone for just a second, blow you up.


I know you are thinking, holy crap is this guy paranoid, but paranoia saves your ship and implants.


Oh well, why wont they just attack me right away then? and I cant just shoot people or ignore them right away...
:| cant they just shoot me once and let me burn them?

If I dont have anything of value to lose, I dont see the loss in fleeting with someone, I might learn something (besides backstab that probably will occur) or see something nice, who knows.. I might manage to get a good timing on him instead?


Sorry I left out a point, when you are in a fleet, you can shoot your fleet mates and Concord will ignore it. So no lost ship, no sec hit. As to why they will not just attack, some people like to mess with other peoples heads. Some people do not want the sec hit. And other reasons, the point is trust yourself, and your guns. You do not need to have value to get popped trust that. Flying in an empty shuttle can get you popped if someone decides you need to get popped.

Also, anytime you are fired upon where concord patrols, you may return fire with out any sec hit to you.

A few rules to live by imho. When you undock any ship, consider it lost until it is redocked. Never talk in local channels, trust no one, and in case you missed it trust no one. EVE is not your average MMO, there are rules, but not rules like other games, it is very harsh game with a somewhat steep learning curve. But once you figure out your niche, I think it is one of the best games out today.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Robbin Sund
#34 - 2012-09-27 19:19:45 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Robbin Sund wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Each area of low sec is differant, some are safe and you can gow hours without seeing anyone, some you have gangs, lone pirites flying thru all the time. *shrug* Low sec, unless they are in your alliance, they are not your freind. Get that into your thoughts, there are people who will fleet up with you, act like your freind, and when you attention is gone for just a second, blow you up.


I know you are thinking, holy crap is this guy paranoid, but paranoia saves your ship and implants.


Oh well, why wont they just attack me right away then? and I cant just shoot people or ignore them right away...
:| cant they just shoot me once and let me burn them?

If I dont have anything of value to lose, I dont see the loss in fleeting with someone, I might learn something (besides backstab that probably will occur) or see something nice, who knows.. I might manage to get a good timing on him instead?


Sorry I left out a point, when you are in a fleet, you can shoot your fleet mates and Concord will ignore it. So no lost ship, no sec hit. As to why they will not just attack, some people like to mess with other peoples heads. Some people do not want the sec hit. And other reasons, the point is trust yourself, and your guns. You do not need to have value to get popped trust that. Flying in an empty shuttle can get you popped if someone decides you need to get popped.

Also, anytime you are fired upon where concord patrols, you may return fire with out any sec hit to you.

A few rules to live by imho. When you undock any ship, consider it lost until it is redocked. Never talk in local channels, trust no one, and in case you missed it trust no one. EVE is not your average MMO, there are rules, but not rules like other games, it is very harsh game with a somewhat steep learning curve. But once you figure out your niche, I think it is one of the best games out today.


Why shouldnt I talk in local channels? :)
Also, if they fire at me and I leave the fleet, will the concord show up after that or is it some cooldown/delay on the fleet leaving?
I could also shoot back.. you know.. ;D

One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Jim Era
#35 - 2012-09-27 19:21:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jim Era
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
wat.


I thought that when you fleet up it says killing fleet members is not a concord sanctioned action?

If you talk in local people will try to find you
and kill you.
local is just used to know who is about to kill you.

Wat™
Robert De'Arneth
#36 - 2012-09-27 19:25:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert De'Arneth
Jim Era wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
wat.


I thought that when you fleet up it says killing fleet members is not a concord sanctioned action?

If you talk in local people will try to find you
and kill you.
local is just used to know who is about to kill you.



Well you can practice in fleets with Allaince people, I never had concord get involved with it, have you had issues when trying stuff?

In high sec space if you fired upon by someone not in your fleet or corps, concord is on the way, the lower the sec status, the longer they take. You can fire at anyone at anytime for any reason, just know if you are in high sec, you are going to have concord.

The reason i am telling you about the fleet thing is simple, there are many people in low sec who love to kill new people who have no idea how the game works. They will say anything to get new people to low sec, and then blow them up. The same thing with people who claim to be ore stealers, they are not ore stealers, they are people who like to kill noobs, noobs do not undestand how all the systems work, so these people pad their kill boards with noob kills. They like to say they are teaching people to play the game, I will disagree on that approach to teaching, but as I said EVE is harsh, and no one will hold your hand.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Jim Era
#37 - 2012-09-27 19:30:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jim Era
corp/alliance members are free game and you can kill them without concord intervention.
fleet up with someone not in your corp it pops up a warning about killing them.

ofc concord isn't going to come to lowsec, but they would take sec loss as normal.

Wat™
Robert De'Arneth
#38 - 2012-09-27 19:36:40 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
corp/alliance members are free game and you can kill them without concord intervention.
fleet up with someone not in your corp it pops up a warning about killing them.

ofc concord isn't going to come to lowsec, but they would take sec loss as normal.



Ahha, lol it hought it was any fleet. To be fair, I do not group with anyone but corp members.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Robbin Sund
#39 - 2012-09-27 19:52:05 UTC
been using EFT a bit now, and I just realised.
cant use 4 miner II on my exeq, I think its the cpu that goes boom 320/250 :(
Should I go drones for the other part, or aim for those cpu increasing chips? but that would lower my cargo.. hmmm..


Can I even go over cpu usage?

One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Jim Era
#40 - 2012-09-27 19:55:58 UTC
train up electronics. 5% cpu ftw

electronics right?

Wat™
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