Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Many things evolved or even completely changed since EVE started. Also many remain same, some may even be considered as obsolete. Empire wars alliances - Privateers, The Orphanage and similar - in their hunger for kills kept most trade hubs and routes insecure and/or non profitable for most criminal activity (suicide runs). After many years, current war mechanics effectively sent most of them into EVE history, however changes did not make empire more safe – just the opposite. For example Goonswarm Federation are now uncontended, as many others.

Before all I want to say that I do not want any change in current flagging, suicide runs, disco ships or any other criminal element.

From my point of view we have some game elements that needs change:
CONCORD – with all ships, fits, modules changes – it has become obsolete
Bounty system – more or less it wasn't working ever


Here is the idea:

Suicide runs are probably most effective way to get good profit in quick time. There is always enough players that travel AFK holding riches in ships cargo. Also catching those that are not AFK, is also great part of game. But, after good kill, CONCORD / players just kill attacker, inflict some security penalty and that's all. Small sacrifice for expensive loot. There is of course 1 month kill right but usually not used.

Lets move EVE world to another level and give players CONCORD options

Technology is already there as shown in faction wars. Of course some tweaks and changes would be needed...

Players working for CONCORD:
- should patrol around trade hubs/routes and engage any criminal activity
- should be able to catch any player with bounty no matter of its current security status (bounty was added when his sec status was low so raising should not effect kill right)
- warning system - we have now intrusion technology, concord players should have similar warning system {maybe also ability to instantly appear in the place of criminal activity in high or low sec}
- should have concord ships with concord modules
they should be tougher with more dps than conventional ships but destroyable
concord modules and ships would be available only to players working for concord
in case of ship destruction, all concord items should be destroyed
- why tougher:
for low sec engagements where one or 2 concord pilots could engage and kill criminals/pirates when outnumbered
- why more dps:
to be able to prevent attacker to kill its target if it survived first salvo
- should be able to arrest criminals


Players with criminal flag
- flagging and its whole mechanics should remain as it is
- instead of giving victim 1 month kill right, that should be now given to CONCORD players
- criminals in pods and ships can be arrested


Arresting and prison

That would be rather new option, but I think it would be great addition to this game, especially if it can be worked with Dust.

Should work as follows:

a)in current mechanics when players make suicide run, ship is destroyed in process but pod is free to go
if there is CONCORD player and he is able to warp scram pod, criminal should be arrested and put in prison ( for every 100 million inflicted loss – 1 day in prison)

b)any criminal flagged player with sec status bellow 0.0 can be arrested while traveling in high and low sec. If CONCORD player successfully warp scram, criminal should have 2 options
to surrender (to be arrested) – ship, modules, implants will be removed and sold for market price and be given to player(s) who arrested him
try to fight/escape – this option would reset lock and scram (would be some info like " criminal was able to make temporary ecm burst that reseted ships locking system"), and then criminal can try to fight or escape – that would not inflict any other flagging and/or security penalty

c)any player with bounty on its head can be arrested and also try to escape
- player who arrested him would receive bounty money
- if he decides to fight and his ship is destroyed, there will be also option to scram his pod
- CONCORD player is not allowed to kill that pod but, if he gets scram on pod it will be arrested
d)prison
- criminals in prison can be hold there according this rules
suicide runs - will remain in prison until he repays whole loss – 1 day – 100 mil
- he pays whole loss and is released immediately
criminal flagged player – will remain in prison until his sec status is back at 0.0 (0.10 status gain per day) – or he can pay according above formula
player with bounty – will be released immediate from prison system without ship and/or modules/cargo/ implants

With DUST in place, there could be also some Prison break actions to be done.


I believe that this would open new, original content to EVE, and make it even more unique.

typical, someone who read but does not understand

this ship would not be able to mission with, go 0.0, etc
it would be only for order preservation - nothing more nothing less

on other hand aren't navy or faction ships better than conventional?

i would like to receive constructive comments

Haven't you lot received enough buffs already?

Missing point here...

Well that is only point well taken.

would like it much better if they relaxed the rules of engagement a bit so that anyone could perform an action against a player who is commiting[sp?] a hostile act, and for 15 minutes after, without CONCORD feeling the need to get involved.

So those of us who only have 1 account, and like to do a bit of everything in EVE are forced to not play when we decide to suicide for some undetermined benefit?


Last I checked, companies prefer their customers play their games.

Counter proposal:
Anyone who posts a stupid idea on the forums gets x number of days in Concord prison, x being the number of words in the post.

So, from all comments I can conclude following:

- everyone are great pvpers when attacking undefended ships
- everyone are great gankers when attacking in a pack solo ships in low sec

But if there would be actual consequence for such deeds - then is that a stupid idea