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Sleepers - Neut or NOS?

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Barrak
The Painted Ones
#1 - 2012-09-20 19:21:44 UTC
Hi,

I was hoping someone could tell me which they do? NOS or Neut?

Thruker website says Energy Vampire, which would suggest Neut, but I can't seem to get anyone to agree.

The consensus us that they Neut to much for it to be a NOS, however they don't appear to have the same modules as we do.

Anyone know (for sure)?

Regards

Barrak
Le'Mon Tichim
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-09-20 19:43:23 UTC
They neut. Crazy neut.

Can you hear them? They are calling to us. It is beautiful. http://thegreattichim.wordpress.com/
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2012-09-20 20:07:07 UTC
Capacitor is empty.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2012-09-20 21:18:09 UTC
The guides will say heavy NOS, but this would mean that they do not have the player limitation of not NOS'ing below their own cap.. so just assume NEUT, and as Ammzi said.. capacitor is empty no matter what anyone says.
Vojk
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-09-20 22:27:29 UTC
Your common or garden Sleeper can suck the elastic out of a golf ball at 65km.

That's all you need to know.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#6 - 2012-09-20 23:45:57 UTC
Goddamn sleepers can neut the **** out of you but does it work against them? Oh HELL no.......Evil

And then they eat your drones.

Goddamn sleepers.

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And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Dalts
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
#7 - 2012-09-21 08:37:33 UTC
The issue you are having here is that originally they NOSed in the lower WHs. CCP changed that fairly recently to neuts as was apparently the intention all along. Therefore yes they neut but some player documentation is out of date.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-09-21 19:48:21 UTC
what the hell is the difference?
end result is you have no cap, who cares why.

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Barrak
The Painted Ones
#9 - 2012-09-21 22:58:26 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
what the hell is the difference?
end result is you have no cap, who cares why.


Cap batteries care!

Thought you'd have known that!
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-09-22 00:38:03 UTC
they really dont...

if you really give a damn, think about how NOSs work and the fact that NPCs have infinite cap and do the maths.

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Le'Mon Tichim
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-09-22 04:16:04 UTC
Barrak wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
what the hell is the difference?
end result is you have no cap, who cares why.


Cap batteries care!

Thought you'd have known that!




Lol, cap batteries.

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Barrak
The Painted Ones
#12 - 2012-09-22 12:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrak
Jack Miton wrote:
they really dont...

if you really give a damn, think about how NOSs work and the fact that NPCs have infinite cap and do the maths.


Jack,


Why so aggressive?

Can you please link the NEUT from the market place that operates a range of 75km?

Also, have you read the description on capacitor batteries?

Sleepers work, to a degree, to their own rules. Whether they manage that range through primarily ship bonuses or through the use of Modules that are unavailable to us, I don't know. But what I do know is that they do have access to modules that we do not have.

So, is it so completely out of the realms of possibility that they just might have a NOS that works that way? and please if you say "yes" then please provide some evidence so I can resolve this.

The only ship we have available that could theoretically make that range would be a curse with a large NOS/Neut on it, however they do not come close to fitting.


Le'Mon Tichim wrote:
Lol, cap batteries.


Really?

No offense Tichim, but I'll continue to think outside the box. Sadly your intelligent post did very little to persuade me otherwise.


Regards

Barrak
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#13 - 2012-09-22 14:52:54 UTC
if you'd use energizer batteries then nueting/Nos sleepies are no problem.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#14 - 2012-09-22 14:54:22 UTC
Visually, they use NOS, but the effect on your cap reflects neutralizer pressure. The reason is because of how the rats' cap is set up and the fact that they have no module that uses cap (all are capless), meaning that a NOS for them works to the degree of what a neut would do, only that it essentially becomes a neut with a NOS visual effect and an infinently reduced activation cost.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-09-23 01:21:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Quote:
Can you please link the NEUT from the market place that operates a range of 75km?


this has to be the dumbest thing ive heard in a long time.
tell you what, you link the sleeper ships on the market and i'll like their mods.

There is no Bob.

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Lexylia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-09-23 04:05:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexylia
Barrak wrote:
Can you please link the NEUT from the market place that operates a range of 75km?




ohhh duuuudee..... http://s7.directupload.net/images/120923/96x2pj89.jpg
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#17 - 2012-09-23 04:50:18 UTC
Moving this to Wormholes.

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Barrak
The Painted Ones
#18 - 2012-09-23 07:44:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrak
I think you missed my point Jack, and again with the aggression......

The point was that Sleepers have their own modules, and taking your own posts now, which I assume you are in agreement that they have their own modules. Is it still out of the realms of possibilities that they work to their own rules too.

As someone else pointed out............ the affects of their NOS/Neut still look like a NOS.

But I have to believe that they use Neuts, just because you said so? All I'm asking for is a little proof. The subject is clearly not as plain as you seem to think it is. They used to NOS, the affects are still NOS, yet we now believe they Neut? Based on what? their infinate cap and the fact that we lose lots of capacitor to them........ however this theory is based purely on the sleepers abiding by the rules on which we fly, and we know that doesn't happen.

Regards


Barrak
Barrak
The Painted Ones
#19 - 2012-09-23 07:46:03 UTC
Lexylia wrote:
Barrak wrote:
Can you please link the NEUT from the market place that operates a range of 75km?




ohhh duuuudee..... http://s7.directupload.net/images/120923/96x2pj89.jpg



Lexylia,

Thank you for your contribution to the thread. I think there is something in there that I can work with Ugh

Out of curiosity, did you not notice the sarcasm in my question, or is that a little beyond you?


Regards

Barrak
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-09-23 10:17:10 UTC
ok, youre right, they NOS.

There is no Bob.

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