Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not sure if troll... if so, not bad 6/10

If not:

Interceptors have low dps. That's not their role. A punisher is supposed to deal more damage than a malediction, nothing wrong here. Same thing for the crusader, it's the combat interceptor, so it does more damage, while the malediction is the fleet interceptor which is better at tackling and staying alive.

Turret dps does not apply the same way missile dps does.

ACs at max falloff do about 50% of their on paper dps if the tracking is perfect, which means 60dps for the claw at 6.5km.

If you want a khanid missile frigate, have a look at the vengeance (and keep in mind it's the tankiest frigate in the game). It does much more damage than the malediction.

I hope this answered your questions.

You forgot Kestrel
Kestrel is sad now

T2 missile ammo is being looked at as part of the winter expansion. Read the stickied posts about it.

Autocannons do not do more damage than rockets except at point blank range. That is, autocannons do not have 6 km range. When you see 0.7 km optimal and 5.3 km falloff, that means they do 50% of their damage at 6 km. Learn how falloff works. Because of their ridiculously low optimal range, small autocannons almost never do their full paper DPS.

Small lasers have major major tracking problems. Try to hit anything from under 3-4 km. Really, try it. Or, with Scorch, try hitting anything from under 7-8 km. Now, try hitting an armor tanked ship, or a T2 Minmatar ship with lasers. Wouldn't it be nice if you could swap to kinetic or explosive damage at will? It's too bad lasers don't have perfect damage selection like rockets do.

Rockets hit targets without having to care about the speed of the originating ship. That is, you can be zipping around at 1.5 km/s with your Malediction around a target without worrying about whether you are able to hit it -- you will hit it. A web makes sure you do nearly full damage against even afterburner-fit ships. The fact they're missiles also gives them built-in kiting capabilities, as moving farther from your target has absolutely no effect on how well you're hitting the target, where with turrets you'd have to stop firing and swap to long range ammo.

In other words, no, rockets are fine. Don't read too far into the raw DPS figure in fitting tools: the delivery and type of that damage matters more than you'd think.

Also, they look awesome!

Ed: Also, you may want to look at some actual combat ships. Interceptors are in a bit of a rut (particularly the Crow), and the Malediction's role isn't really to even do damage. Look at the Vengeance and Hawk for what rockets can do.

I remember in a tourney where I was in a rocket kestrel teamed up with an AC rifter. Now, the rifter had to get much closer than me to hit its targets, but I could hang back a bit.

Despite him getting to the target and firing on them before me, I would always do twice the amount of damage he dealt. The target always got webbed (by the rifter) and turret disrupted (me).

I do not see the need for a rocket anything to get a buff, as rockets are nasty, nasty, nasty as they stand.


on another note; I like some of the actually constructive criticisms that others have been posting!

I should note that while the Stiletto, Ares, Malediction, and Raptor are all tackle interceptors that get point bonus, none of them fit long range weaponry because you can't hit anything with long range weapons when you're going 3+ km/s. They get short range weapons to deal with light tackle that caught them, or drones. In the Malediction's case, tight fittings and no bonus means light missiles are useless. For the others, it's tracking.