Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So... 110 pages of mostly people against these changes.

When will Fozzie respond with his counter argument? Or will he let this thread rumble on until Winter when they go ahead with the changes anyway, regardless of feedback? Cmon Fozzie, we want feedback too!

Well... that’s because you should not be able to track disrupt a weapon system that doesn’t track.... DOH !

I'm currently attempting to fit up a battlecruiser to match the following on a Drake:

• EHP
• DPS
• Alpha
• Speed
• Cap stability for a decent length of time
• Agility
• Fitting costs
• Lock Range

Trying the Harbinger first, so far I can't get anything on that list without all of the others being completely LOL. Looking at the Brutix and Myrmidon with Railguns next...

Maybe let's try something like this :

Tracking Disruptor stays the same.
New Missile Tracking Disruptor ( Ballistics Disruptor ) to affect missiles ( no need for new scripts, the ones used in TD will do ).
New Weapon Tracking Disruptor to affect both but just like multi-spec ECM it will be weaker than TD is now ( no need for new scripts ).

Tracking Enhancer/Computer stays the same.
New Missile Tracking Enhancer/Computer ( Ballistic Control Enhancer/Computer ) to affect missiles ( scripts stay the same ).
New Weapon Tracking Enhancer/Computer, which will affect both but it will be weaker ( used on split weapon boats, same scripts ).

he already did. post #1318 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1942484#post1942484
it just drowed in all the whining of grunts and people who complain because there ships wont be uber anymore.

Oh thanks for that, yes I missed it in all the posts!

So erm yeah... the result is... we're gonna nerf anyway?

The sad thing is that there will always be something better at one thing than another, Take the nighthawk for example pretty much crap for most things you really wouldn't want to run lvl 4's in it but it can run lvl 5's solo ( I know I've done them in it)

Now was this intended? ..obviously not! but can you nerf a ship that is already severely underpowered for most things because it can do one thing that it shouldn't be able to do , you could do but what would happen?

You may as well just remove the ship from the game.

Now I've been reading this thread pretty much since day one and the overriding consensus on here by looking at the posts or should I say the content of the posts the same two things are always mentioned...Tengu and Drake.

Now I fly both and have done for ages, well primarily the Tengu now and the problem is with both ships is Tank, The tengu if you have halfway decent skills can fit 3 shield mods leaving depending on config 2 or 3 mids left and still pretty much tank most PVE stuff.
The drake is somewhat similar and again when in pvp or solo if I see a drake I'll just leave it alone, not because I'm scared of it because I'm not, anything fast will tank HML pretty much but because of the tank it's going to take forever to kill it.

Nerfing a whole line of missles because when you put 200 of them together they are overpowered isn;t really a well thought out answer, deal with the ships that cause the inbalance not the weapons that on some ships or ok/normal but on others overpowered.

You remove anomolies in the game and then whole thing just then becomes about who's got more, Take the Titan issue people were complaining that you field 20 titans and you're 300 man blob doesn;t automatically win, well to me it shouldn't have.

So if you half sized but well equipped alliance doesn;t have a counter to the raging horde all that happens is that it just boils down to numbers, no individuality nothing,.

What happens when the next "go to" ship becomes over popular and then we have 300 man blobs of those... again the same thing.

Range nerf I can understand but not the damage, if something has the ability to outrange you and apply dps the answer isn't just to moan and get the thing nerfed it's to change your tactics and think of something else to counter that.
I've been in drake fleets that have been absolutely fecked over because the FC on the other side came up with tactics that were better.


It's an ever decreasing circle of meh.

Here is MY PERSONAL feedback:
Two accounts cancelled - You lost a more than 4 years paying customer!

In addition to the missile nerf CCP will also bring an AI boost for NPC's in missions. These NPC's will switch targets. At the first look it seems to be a good idea. At the second look it is a typical darft idea from CCP. Mission "Buzz Kill" and "Stop The Thief" are just two of more missions where every pilot will have problems with his drones. (ELITE) Frigs are at 65km+ at the beginning, you start your drones but they will be destroyed before they reach the enemy frigate. If you call back your drones they are to far away to reach your ship befor they are destroyed. What have we than? A scrambled ship without drones and less damage with missiles or more damage with the stupid TE+TC but horrible less tank. Good job CCP.

As Caldari pilot I end my career in New Eden.
From a RP point I could say I grab my ISK buy me a planet or at least a little moon somewhere and can live like a god for the rest of my life.
From a RL point I MUST SAY, that CCP do never think about changes and their consequences. And ever ask the wrong people who do not have skilled what they intent to nerf next.

Bye folks. It was a pleasure for me to be part of this community for 4.5 years. But now it is time to travel on.
O7

P.S.: No! You can not have my stuff. Remember? I want to buy me a planet or a little moon.

See you in 3 months! :-) Ufortunately although I admire your sentiment people always say "I'm off" and don't actually go through with it. I'll be staying because I like EVE and will just buy the ship that hasn't been nerfed and that will still do the same job.

It doesn't change the fact that I think it's run by people who really don't understand their user base even after so many cockups and apologies and their little lapdogs with their holier than thou attitudes.