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Shadow Ripper
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2012-09-20 19:19:43 UTC
Jax Bederen wrote:

Because it's a dark oh so scary universe. For them however it's all butterflies and meadows. Lot's of talk of risk vs reward here, so why not spice it up a bit.


this guy get's it.

Unfortunately the majority of the feedback here goes toward the acceptance of these scams because they fit in the game's universe. I can see why you see that. We have traders, miners, fighters, explorers, manufacturers, pirates and, well, scammers.

Unfortunately the latter has total impunity over their actions. You can't kill him. He'll stay docked. He'll continue to spam. And some sucker will eventually fall for its tricks. They can't be stopped. They win.

So the question is, why should they get away with it? Maybe if you're into doing bad stuff in the game you'll enjoy it, but the other ones who strive for security, balance and justice can't do nothing about it. I vote for a change on that! Give us the tools to get back at them!
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#102 - 2012-09-20 19:25:56 UTC
The golden rule of any scammer is to achieve a situation where the Rupert thinks that he's smarter than the scammer.

So every time that you find a deal that seems either to good to be true or that you've have found a way to outsmart a scammer, you're most likely a prime target.

Unless of course that you are sure that you are much smarter than the scammer that are out to get your isk.

If that happens to be the case then I've got a barely used bridge in NY City that I have to sell fast and cheap.


Scams in EvE isn't a problem and they have never been.

Connect brain before clicking accept and don't think that you are smarter than someone else until you have the isk in your hand.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#103 - 2012-09-20 19:26:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Quote:
got it? ;-)


Got it, but what about filters? Of course they will try harder, but it's some succes already, make it harder. :-)

And there was other option, when in trade hub (for people > 300, high sec only), make people pay to use local channel, you take valuable place in this chat!
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#104 - 2012-09-20 20:29:24 UTC
Never trust the link you see blindly.

Links are easy to edit.

Cute kitten picture here
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#105 - 2012-09-20 20:33:07 UTC
Palovana wrote:
Never trust the link you see blindly.

Links are easy to edit.

Cute kitten picture here
Yes this is quite true, if you would like another example I can show you how to scam anyone in five easy steps here.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Taedrin
Virtues Corporation
#106 - 2012-09-20 20:44:19 UTC
As Chribs mentioned:
Don't hate the scam. Hate the spam.
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#107 - 2012-09-20 22:31:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Shadow Ripper wrote:
So you're agreeing with what i said only except you'd not name good but rather evil and benign evil. My point still stands.
Actions > consequences.


Action: You were scammed.
Consequence: Your stuff is now mine.

Everything is in order here.

Shadow Ripper wrote:
Maybe if you're into doing bad stuff in the game you'll enjoy it, but the other ones who strive for security, balance and justice can't do nothing about it.


You could always not allow yourself to be scammed in the first place. Oh wait, that's too hard for you.

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Space Therapist
Better Days Ahead
#108 - 2012-09-20 22:39:30 UTC
Methesda wrote:
EglantinFinfleur wrote:
How exactly can you get back at a scammer who never undocks?

Is this a cold and harsh universe for him?


Easy, don't fall for his scam.

Then they spend 6 months spamming a games chat channel, before stopping with the realisation that they are wasting their life.



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Gogela
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#109 - 2012-09-20 23:00:09 UTC
There are better, easier ways to scam, I think. Big smile

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morons.
#110 - 2012-09-20 23:07:12 UTC
OP is trolling. No human being is remotely masochistic enough to read jita local.

Hint: If it's really a good deal, it doesn't need to be posted anywhere, people will find it.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Ayuren Aakiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#111 - 2012-09-20 23:44:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayuren Aakiwa
Never fallen for a scam myself, but have scammed many a pilot with the faction mod contract scam, and all I can say is that if you use that thing behind your forehead you won't get scammed. Pretty simple
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2012-09-21 01:26:17 UTC
So, is this OP suggestion more things changed to make EVE easier? No thanks.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe

Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#113 - 2012-09-21 01:38:05 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
So, is this OP suggestion more things changed to make EVE easier? No thanks.


How is risk easier? easy mode is having no consequences.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2012-09-21 06:36:08 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
well lets be honest here. What happened was
contract was
- you pay 350 mil
- you get plex
-you also pay plex

it SHOULD have failed unless he had a plex in his hanger to start, but it doesn't. the game takes your isk, gives you a plex then takes it right back. when in reality it shouldn't, yea it is an old scam but it is confusing to newer players and tbh it's stupid.
I am all for scams, but it might as well be considered a bug in the contract system that never got fixed.

Interesting. I though it only works "against" people who buy several plex at once (and thus have that plex they are supposed to pay accordingly to the contract). But it's not like EVE doesn't check if you have requested items when contract is accepted, so if it indeed works this way, it's strange and smells like intended (if lame) design.

Still, reading your contract works fine.

i'm not 100% sure about if it works, but I am pretty sure it does.

you are right, it is in the contract, and it is easy to avoid, but it's still bad design in a way.
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#115 - 2012-09-21 07:24:10 UTC
turns out that "975000 Mexallon for 55 isk/unit" was actually 97500 Mexallon for 550 isk/unit

"how can I get back at this guy THIS GAME IS SO UNFAIR that was COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY INAVOIDABLE"

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Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2012-09-21 08:24:56 UTC
Shadow Ripper wrote:
Unfortunately the latter has total impunity over their actions. You can't kill him. He'll stay docked. He'll continue to spam. And some sucker will eventually fall for its tricks. They can't be stopped.

The only way to win... is not to play.


dawwwwwww

– postum faex est – 

never forget

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#117 - 2012-09-21 10:54:44 UTC
Nostradamouse Riraille wrote:
No


Thanks, you just gave me square 3-1 for the day! (See sig)

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Nalha Saldana
The Vomit Comets
#118 - 2012-09-21 12:02:09 UTC
Economic Darwinism at its finest.
Jester Fate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#119 - 2012-10-06 21:42:39 UTC
So is this a thread to report scammers or is it a thread for scammers to talk about how great they are at it?
Gogela
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#120 - 2012-10-06 21:50:43 UTC
It's a numbers game baby. If X% of people will fall for the scam than what you make is simply a function of how many people you can put your scam in front of. Keep it simple. That's it.

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Cthulhu, why settle for a lesser evil?

I think I just found my new corp chat MOTD and corp saying ^

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