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My first cane

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Ruska Nolm
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-09-20 15:01:06 UTC
So i'm thinking of buying a hurricane, and was wondering if this fit would do any good:

[Hurricane, Cane]
'Pilfer' Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
'Pilfer' Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Remote Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Target Painter II

425mm Medium Gallium Machine Gun, Phased Plasma M
425mm Medium Gallium Machine Gun, Phased Plasma M
425mm Medium Gallium Machine Gun, Phased Plasma M
425mm Medium Gallium Machine Gun, Phased Plasma M
425mm Medium Gallium Machine Gun, Phased Plasma M
425mm Medium Gallium Machine Gun, Phased Plasma M
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Inferno Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin I x5
Hobgoblin I x1

Essentially the idea is to have a cap stable armor tanker for level 3s, and according to EFT with my current skills I could run everything but the MWD for about 20 mins so it looks pretty good on paper, a newb like me might benefit from an experienced opinion.
Utaldail Krull
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-09-20 15:11:35 UTC
Send me a email in game -- I will help you with a fit
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-09-20 15:31:01 UTC
The Remote Sensor Booster's only useful if you're in a gang and cranking up someone else's targeting - you want a standard Sensor Booster for your own ship. Also, those "Pilfer" EANM's are storyline items, rarer than hen's teeth and expensive as anything to boot; if you've got the CPU and the skills, use Tech II EANM's, which will afford just as much protection at a reasonable cost.

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-09-20 15:31:35 UTC
you did not provide enough data for us to help you. if you want some concrete fitting advice, please at least tell us where you want to run missions (which region and which faction).

I should buy an Ishtar.

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#5 - 2012-09-20 15:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
I'd recommend using specific hardeners instead of EANMs (preferably 3 of those, but 2 might be okay). In your mids you should have 3 cap chargers and your MWD and replace those heavy missile launchers with rapid light ones for frigates. Also it would probably be worth spending a little extra for Meta 4 guns, I think they're called 'scout' ACs.

When it comes to mission running, being cap stable(with MWD switched off) is a huge benefit. The reason is because MWDs use large amounts of cap and while you're cap is not stable, you will never recover the cap you spend on your MWD. If you can get cap stable, it means you can recover some cap during the periods you're not running your MWD.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-09-20 18:43:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Caleidascope
Marc Callan wrote:
The Remote Sensor Booster's only useful if you're in a gang and cranking up someone else's targeting - you want a standard Sensor Booster for your own ship.

+1 The Remote Sensor Booster is useless in solo pve.


To OP.

Regarding low slots. The DC is ok, but you should not think that it is best choice, it is one of several choices. In your place I would seriously consider using rat specific armor resist. Other choices are: gyro, armor plate, tracking enhancer, capacitor module, pds.

Regarding medium slots. MWD is ok, like you already said, you will be pulsing it when needed. I hate micromanagement, but since you are ok with micromanaging your mods, then using mwd instead of ab is fine. Remote sensor booster is useless. Target Painter is ok, but again, it is not the best module for that slot, it is one of several modules that can go there and benefit you. I would have gone with capacitor module so I can run the armor rep longer and have more capacitor just in case, a cushion of sorts.

Regarding high slots. The high slots are ok. I don't normally use HAMsters, but there is nothing wrong with choosing them. If you find that you like them in combination with ac, then you will continue using them. If not, then you have two more choices, rapid launchers and heavy missile launchers.

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Abannan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-09-22 10:46:15 UTC
The sebo isn't THAT useless, if he's running serpentis missions, although theres probably better things you can put in those slots
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-09-22 20:42:39 UTC
Abannan wrote:
The sebo isn't THAT useless, if he's running serpentis missions, although theres probably better things you can put in those slots

A lot of people know how to read, but very often they don't actually understand what they read. Which part of Remote Sensor Booster you do not understand?

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Lili Lu
#9 - 2012-09-23 01:32:41 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Abannan wrote:
The sebo isn't THAT useless, if he's running serpentis missions, although theres probably better things you can put in those slots

A lot of people know how to read, but very often they don't actually understand what they read. Which part of Remote Sensor Booster you do not understand?

True, and some of your advice is good, but your post also advised the Op to drop the DC, which for someone just starting out in level 3s is not good advice. A dc can mean the difference between a narrow escape and warp out or becoming a wreck if he screws up a trigger or finds his armor tank breaking for whatever reason.

Also, you mentioned a plate. That would only make sense in a mission if he was running an undersize ship that lacked sufficient buffer to let reps cycle up for tanking. A BC has sufficient buffer for a level 3.

Anyway OP, I always did my level 3s with arty and an afterburner. It was just much easier to blap rats at range and then kite them instead of risking multiple groups of rats proximity aggro-ing on you by using close range weapons.

And about those membranes, are you running out of fitting? You may need to train up some fitting skills.