Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The Hype has 5 mid slots and is surprisingly fast and agile for a battleship. You should check that bad boy out shield tanked! It totally dominates the Tempest at the BS-playing-as-a-BC role. The Mach cheats.

-Liang

Get serious :)

Almost no one is using the Caracal today, and for bloody good reason. Now they are talking a 20% damage nerf plus the addition of added damage reduction in the form of TD's.

You have a mediocre tank, DPS half that of an AF, no neut, two small drones, and it's not even particularly fast.... What exactly are you gonna kill with it?

Again, people aren't using it NOW. Why in God's name would they use it when every other cruiser and frigate in the game just got significantly better while this ship got nerfed?

I vote we change the stabber to a class of "War Frigate" or "Battle Frigate" - a stepping hull to the Vaga the real Cruiser hull... it seems to fit that role more than the current cruiser hull role.

On a serious note - 4/4 fit HS would be nice, 15/15 drone bay... that would be a nice thought.

Fixed that for you. The Caracal is the supreme anti-frigate cruiser platform only challenged by the RF Stabber .. if some tweaks are made, in particular to HAM fittings, the Caracal of tomorrow will indeed be a wolf among sheep and will have unsurpassed flexibility (RoF bonus description).

TD spam has been on the increase for some time, especially in low-sec/FW, and missile user will need to compensate for that .. but we gun toting maniacs have been living with TDs since birth and are still around and still flying our gunships.

That said: Suggested TD changes will hurt solo/small-gang to no end so something has to be done to soften the blow. Not sure when/what the eWar revision is but in the meantime I think that giving TDs the ECM treatment (reduce mod effect, increase hull bonus) is the only way to make it work as is .. the spam will be horrendous and the cries for help will equal that of 'becauseoffalcon' as combat becomes boring to the extreme with winning hulls all having minimum of 4 mids (prop, tackle, TD )

The thorax needs more powergrid, other wise people will just say **** it and shield tank it.

The omen is the odd ship out of them all because it is stuck with slow armor tanking. Attack ships are supposed to be fast and mobile ships, the omen goes against this philosophy since it is pigeonholed into armor tanking.

The stabber should have 5 turrets and a 25 m3 drone bay, remove one or both missile slots.

The caracal should have a 25 m3 drone bay. Reduce the mass on the caracal as well, I don't see why it should be heavier than gallente ship.

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As a Gallente I find it offensive to give them filthy Caldari more drones
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Seriously no, we will have too many ships with small drone bays ( usually used for ECM I fear ). Drones everywhere. Besides it's a missile boat, it doesn't need drones to hit smaller targets like gun boats.

More mass == smaller boost to speed when using AB or MWD.

You can't expect Caldari missile boats to be nearly as fast as Gallente when you can spew missiles from afar while we need to get very close to do anything meaningful in most cases.

no please; there should be a reason to use the navy ammo over the T2.

T2 adds additional damage at the cost of tracking, faction ammo adds less damage and doesnt take away from your tracking . . . problem?

Yes, one.
What is your favourite colour?

How will the Caracal fall behind? HMLs are still good compared to other long range weapon systems.

It is unrealistic to expect HMLs to compete with close range weapon systems at close ranges.

You should really wait until they are finished rebalancing colours to decide this.