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THE RIDICULOUS banana WHICH IS EVE'S PVP

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Luminus Mallus
Haul Chill And Kill All
#1 - 2012-09-19 05:13:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Luminus Mallus
My point is easy, and everybody learned it the hard way after their first ship losses in each category.
NOTE: frigates are used as example of the smallest ship accessible to 100% of the playerbase, and battleships as the biggest, accessible to 60% of the playerbase [the others being trials and new accounts])

frigates. less than circa 50 meter long ships: can fit small high slots, up to 8 in number (counting destroyers in the category, by size)
battlecruisers, up to TEN TIMES bigger than frigates: can fit medium slots, up to 8 in number. can fit small, too... but only in the medium high slot.
Medium size weapons fail to properly defend the ship against a frigate, unless the ship is equipped to fight frigates only.
FAIL.
battleships, up to FIFTY TIMES BIGGER THAN FRIGATES (counting dreadnoughts and carriers): can fit large high slots, up to 8 in number.
Large size weapons fail to properly defend the ship against battlecruisers, unless the ship is specifically equipped to fight battlecruisers. FAIL 2.
Large size weapons are completely unable to defend the battleship against frigates. specific fittings are only barely efficient.
FAIL 3.
If the battleship is specifically equipped to fight against frigates or battlecruisers, it becomes completely useless as a battleship.
FAIL 4.

FIX: In all of history, the bigger the vessel, the more weapons it carried.
Battleships SHOULD have additional medium and small slots, that should obviously only fit THOSE specific weapons in them, but they don't have them.
A battleship, 1000+ meters long, has at maximum 8 weapons systems.
EVE IS A FAILURE, where a battleship (eve's name could not be more sorely misused) has as little weapons systems as a frigate.

FIX: Basically, the bigger the ship class, the more additional lower class weapon systems it should have.
Even without the bonuses, it would suffice.

To the PINEAPPLE ccp team BANANA that thought about misusing the 'battleship' term to identify the actual joke that the ship represents: how a battleship armament present itself (armament section on the right column)

Gotta love how much low sec null sec whiners there are, and how they cry their pussies out about the fact that lowsecnullsec is 'nerfed' or 'has no love',
you BANANAs obviously expect that a highsec player that can raise 20 million isk and more an hour risk his billion isk ships going to a place where not only he will be outnumbered, but where even his biggest ships can offer no sufficient deal of confidence or security or protection.

Additionally, what about SCRAMBLERS and WEBBERS?
a frigate scrambling and webbing power is COMPLETELY unaffected by target ship size difference.
frigate vs battleship scramble/ web? no problem, 100% efficiency. whichever the excuse you elaborate for this ANANASedness, in your deluded and BANANAic mind, it would not stand, even under the scrutiny of the most ******** of the sci-fi loving fans. no electronics, no physics, no magic could, would and should allow this. FAIL 5.
FIX: introduce ship size based web and scramble efficiency

Anyhow since it's obvious that eve is lasting because of a small number of 'white whales' that dump their salaries into cpp's pockets, to fuel such fail,
I gloat at the fact that dust's smoldering wreckage of fail will associate ccp to the actual fail that is eve, so that eventually the hordes of trials that are brought in by the banners will stop coming, to fuel the pathetic idea that's behind eve's PVP:
you don't need real human skill when you have isk (and/ or just dumped four real time years of real cash into training your character)

The '$ replaces human skill' phylosophy should never have existed in the first place in an online game, and time has come for it to die, possibly with its physical creators and supporters, to never come back.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#2 - 2012-09-19 05:20:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Anhenka
Sorry bro, you lost all your readers attention at the point where you lumped dreadnaughts and carriers in the battleship shipclass.

Also, LOL at larger ships mounting more smaller weapons based on size.


I would totally fly a.....say 400 light missile launcher raven. After all, 5x as big, right?


Leviathans with 100000 LAUNCHERS! Thou shall fear no dictor as thy hail of light FoF missles scourge the enemy fleet from thy.. airspace...? space-space...? wait...
Juniorama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-09-19 05:40:29 UTC
For those of you unaware, this is his previous thread on the topic. Be prepared to be enlightened.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=149730&p=3
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#4 - 2012-09-19 07:57:47 UTC
Recreating threads that have been previously locked goes against the forum rules. Especially when you copy the argument word for word.

Thread locked.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

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