Crime & Punishment

Ok so let me get this straight, you went from the position of legitimate war targets blah blah " we are just teaching them pvp"

To....

Actually we are seriously butt hurt that the NOOB alliance managed to kill one of us and we want the heads of the leaders due to some sort of grudge...

Yes?

So effectively you are griefing the noob alliance because a noob got the better of you...

Now we are finally getting down to the nitty gritty

So tell me why you cowardly left your 200m battleship in space :
http://killfeed.eveuniversity.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=45127
What else ? +5 implants ?

Mad'o'meter : 8,5/10.

So, aren´t you TELLING your recruits during their interview that you are at war and what this portends? And make sure they actually understand the consequences if they still want to join?

If not, your recruitment staff is not doing a very good job.
If you do, those "noobs" (that is an insulting term, btw) did so willingly and knowingly.

Also, isn´t there supposed to be a bogus-corp just for those Unistas to join that do not want to take part in a war but still take part in the classes and general social interaction of E-Uni?





Last time I checked it was still forbidden to publicly insult other players; "be polite to everyone within and without E-Uni", or something like this it went, iirc.



Now, I am not a friend of perma-wardecs (another argument for having the cost raise by, say 20% each week), nor do I take the claim of "teaching Unistas how to PvP" seriously, but you are NOT doing E-Uni a favor with your postings here.

Your ranting is equally void of arguments and insulting, both to E-Uni and your wardeccers, in the war for sympathy, you are not winning; it also goes against your own code of conduct.


Where is Darian when he is needed?

Woah! I walk out the house for a day, and when I get back this thread has become all messy......I'm not even sure where I stand on the matter and I'm on one of the sides.

Phew I might need to have a soothing cup of peppermint tea to ease my nerves with all these insults flying around like.....Well things that fly around (Use your imagination - I'm not paid to be creative)

Well in the end.. as long as people are having fun. So far EVE uni is winning the ISK war.

Wow, this thread is a huge pile of misinformation, horrifically outdated information, some kind of sleep-walking/posting confusion and (what I have to hope is correct for my hope for humanity) pathetically bad trolling.

In rough order, and split up enough to avoid wall of text status:

Ferocious Fox is not a member of E-UNI. You can usually tell this by the "The Final Stand Inc" corporation listed her name, which is both spelt and pronounced differently to "EVE University". If you have problems with this, im sure we can put togther some kind of side by side comparison.

"First rule of EVE: I agree to PvP the moment I hit Undock."
Actually, you agree to PvP the moment you created your account. You don't need to even be logged in to PvP, and even when you are, theres still the markets.

"You guys don't teach PVP you manufacture blob idiots for null sec."
A simple look at our killboard and the number of involved people in each kill makes it pretty clear that theres much less blobbing than you seem to think. Maybe if you cared to go to losec or null, you'd see this happening?

"as lame as wardeccing a rookie training corp is, it's a perfectly legit source of 'pvp' for the skilless HS wardec mod."
Agreed. They pay their ISK, and they then have the option of PvP without Concord/SecStatus changes. The majority of those who have wardecced us since Inferno have paid the ISK but instead decided to just pick off those not paying attention. No loss there.

"Then I woke up, saw the EVEuni killboard and aww sh!t"
You seem to be a little confused there. Care to demonstrate where this can be found on our killfeed? Maybe its part of your dream? That would explain why it seems to show missioning and inductrial activity. WTB URL for this magical killboard.

"...lovely CEA well known to love the idea of transforming highsec in a consensual pvp area."
Why thank you, you're quite lovely too. You do seem to be still dreaming though.

"WE COULD BE WARDEC'D, LET'S RUN TO THE DECSHIELD HILL"
You're still dreaming. The DecShield never actually made it difficult to declare war, just a bit more expensive - not much more than it currently costs to wardec TEST or the Goons in fact.

"multi-year-old-toon-that-has-never-been-out-of-Uni-and-thinks-is-awesome"
We have a few characters who have been in the Uni for years, myself included, but theyre almost all in staff/management positions. Everyone has alts, though...

"all eve uni teaches is that solo pvp is impossible"
This is my favourite line so far. Its not impossible, but its very easy to become outnumberd, especially when you happen to declare war on someone 100x your size. But of course, the members of U-MAD seem to be demonstrating that "solo PvP" is impossible as they have to have at least 3-4 guys on every industrial gank. Lead by example, perhaps? Noir. never had much of a problem taking on Uni fleets 10x their size.

"I lost all respect for Eve Uni when they started working with Test."
We have never worked with TEST. A group of E-UNI Alumni within TEST provided a load of reources to us for a pilot program. No resources were provided to them, not even intel, while they even provided us access to their jump bridge network to reach NPC null.

"...fix EVE pvp by killing blobers..."
You'll probably find that bombs work pretty well for this. Oh, wait... theyre only available in nullsec. You may want to try going there sometime - it can be quite interesting.

"That's an accurate definition of all the bitter vets hiding in EVEuni."
Names please, and I'll look at kicking them. Assuming you're not still dreaming...?

"couldn't you just permablob them into a station or something?"
Yep, we could. However, they then go AFK, attempt to smack in local (badly, and we're actually looking at adding proper Trolling classes) and then log off. The thing is though, they arent a threat to anyone who is paying attention (Underlined for Awesome).

"...we do EVE University a service. We help their members rid themselves of useless ships like mining barges..."
Close, but not quite. As mentioned, the current wardecs are only a threat to those members who don't pay attention, who then lose their ships, and either learn to pay attention, or just ragequit. Less work for us either way.

"We've even considered starting a U-MAD Newb Training School"
Please do. I'll even refund the 1.6 million ISK to form the corp, and freely bump it up to 6300 members to save you messing with corp skills.

"I thought the point of E-U was teaching newbies how the game works, and war decs are part of the game."
Yep, they are and yes, we do teach them, although it can be a challenge to explain how dangerous things can be with their first few days. It's akin to tying an anvil to someones ankle and throwing it off a bridge into a river, but it works for a few. There may be a small number of drowning incidents...

"And their teachings are killing pvp."
Yet, we have a Guest FC program, and Guest Classes, and ~2000 people willing to learn. You could consider teaching, but that would require some proven skills other than ganking?

"I joined this corp for pew... Im soo poor i cant even afford rifters."
I've heard of a corp who can help with that. They give out free ships and skillbooks and stuff.

"I honestly just want [some FCs] heads. After I slay them I'll be happy."
You know you're playing EVE, right? You can shoot them even when not at war, or on an alt. Same way we can gank OOC boosters, RR and so on when they arent flagged.

"[something about cats?] ... [horrific grammar?]"
Seriously now, you should wake up. Youre mumbling into your keyboard.

"why is Dewa Cinta's vagabond shooting rockets?"
Thats a very good question. We have classes to help with that. They're freely available to all.

Man you high sec scrubs are pretty observant. Actually I joined to awox which was pretty successful. tbh even killing cyno frigs in 0.0 requires infinitely more skill then what you queers do. You see; I fly around a region in which everyone can actually shoot at me.

You fly around easy mode space in which only the people you choose can shoot back. naturally you choose the most incompetent groups of players you can possibly find. This is understandable; it isn't much fun trying to play against people who will actually put up a decent fight. You'd have to dock up your instalocking alpha ships and switch to real pvp ships and you probably don't know how those work.

Just admit it; your whole corp are **** tier gankers that just pop shuttles and noobships on undocks.

Lol this guy is just stupid I have nothing else to say really. "Everyone can shoot at me but I fly a run away frig?" I guess ignoring all the 0.0 kills we had just this past month and all the ones before that because now that we are in high sec we never have been to null. Seems the thought logic of most eve players. I was in NCDOT I was in Burn Eden. I left mainly because I got tired of the null sec blobbing and Burn Eden's inactivity at the time.

Lets see less than a month ago in stain I soloed a hurricane who thought he was pro for being in a null sec. What made him pro you ask? Well he had a cyno and he thought that made him boss. After cynoing in a chimera and realizing hey fighters don't work on a guy with half a brain I proceeded to solo him in front of his carrier while it was giving him shield reps. Something your garbage ass would have immediately ran from judging by the crap u fly.

Said killmail -> http://umad.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14407513 Notice the damage taken lol.

Sorry, anyone who has applied to E-Uni knows it takes at least a week just to get through the application/interview process, during which they are made fully aware of any War Dec situation and what restrictions to carebearing they will be under if they still want to join. In addition, leaving the Uni during wartime has never been a problem, and they can still stay in contact and have access to the learning tools they need until they decide to return. If the dec is 6 months old, the "week old" players only have themselves to blame.

I'm sorry what's that? Drop the dec for a day and you'll show us "what's what"? I don't quite follow your special logic. Feel free to "lead a fleet" against me - look I'm even in the same system as you <3