EVE General Discussion

I have often run gaming sessions for my children. My characters have scared them, have outraged them, have killed them, have been killed by them, and have challenged them to the limits of their abilities and imagination.

They loved every minute of it and are far more straight laced and are of stronger moral fiber than I ever was at their age. They still pester me to run game sessions for them to this day, and my elder son is 30.

It's ROLE PLAYING, by definition you are portraying a character that has a personality that is often very, very different from your own.

Here's a newsflash.

Harrison Ford isn't really a hero, he's an actor.
Alfred Hitchcock wasn't a psychotic killer, but he made up and produced movies about great ones.
Your friend that plays Dungeons and Dragons isn't really a Paladin or an Assassin, he's a nerd.
I have never committed homicide, and have no desire to... nor would I if I could easily get away with it.

People who believe otherwise have difficulty discerning the difference between fantasy and reality, what is real from make believe, and because of that limitation tend to project motivations on people that are role playing or acting that aren't really there.

They also tend to take events in a game far, far to seriously.

Now that fella that starts making fun of someone's mother that just died in real life? Yeah, he's a jerk.

But he's not a jerk because he blew up someones Mac in high sec, or declared war on your corp. He's a jerk because he took things beyond the game environment in a malicious manner. He left the realm of role playing and fantasy behind and took advantage of his anonymity to try and hurt you emotionally in real life.

That's where the line is drawn, because if his blowing up your imaginary pixels and laughing maniacally in a virtual role playing game about space ships causes you emotional distress in real life then the issue lies in your own head... not his.

you completely missed my point here , i said role playing is fine. as in playing a space pilot, a wizard, a soldier etc you (not you literally, but in general anyone who does this) cussing at me in local, trolling me and insulting myself my peers and family is not roleplay that is plain childish and disrespectful. if youre acting like that in game, chances are in real life you are like that maybe the oppositie, antisocial, but either way there is an issue there . there isnt anything wrong with blowing up a person in eve , or can flipping them , etc this was all explained in the tos eula etc but like you said there is a line drawn and more than enough players cross this line which isnt acceptable . its a shame anyone would defend acting like that in a game.

im a "normal" person: i cuss, i have flaws, i make mistakes., but one thing i dont do is attack another person in game and in real life. like i said , i wasnt raised to be like that in real life and im not going to change my persona in game just becasue it is a game. if youre one of these people that i described, hey thats fine thats you and i cant tell you how to act or force you to im just stating how i am

again , im not above anyone but i am above the action.

Yawn.

I don't know what's more boring, another thread about how benevolent Goon Swarm are or another thread about VR.

im a "normal" person: i cuss, i have flaws, i make mistakes., but one thing i dont do is attack another person in game and in real life. like i said , i wasnt raised to be like that in real life and im not going to change my persona in game just becasue it is a game. if youre one of these people that i described, hey thats fine thats you and i cant tell you how to act or force you to im just stating how i am

again , im not above anyone but i am above the action.

I'm not role playing, this is how I am in person. I don't act like an immature kid with behavioral problems. I'm only twenty and I get the point of not disrespecting another person secondly I'm going to "let my hair out" i tried having a dialogue here but clearly you feel the need to defend this kind of behavior. Like I said that's fine, your patents taught you that and I can't and won't judge you.
So with you logic, I guess it'll be totally acceptable running around(flying) through heavily populated systems saying in local Sean "vile rat" Smith was a huge ****** (mind you i would never do this)just because I'm in the southern coalition and he was in goons: hey it's role playing right, ?

I'm not role playing, this is how I am in person.

I don't act like an immature kid with behavioral problems. I'm only twenty and I get the point of not disrespecting another person

So with you logic, I guess it'll be totally acceptable running around(flying) through heavily populated systems saying in local Sean "vile rat" Smith was a huge ****** (mind you i would never do this)just because I'm in the southern coalition and he was in goons: hey it's role playing right, ?

EVE is basically an archaic, tribal society. You show kindness and respect to fellow members of your tribe, but you murder, **** and pillage everyone else. If another tribe owns something and is weaker than your tribe, you take it from them and give it to your tribe. And that is how it is supposed to be. People who are ignorant of this or deny it, become victims.