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BinaryData
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-15 17:13:09 UTC
I'm sure there are many things in EVE that need to be rebalanced. CCP has found several of those things, and have worked towards balancing them out. But one thing they missed was: Covert Ops Cloaks.

The question I have to ask CCP is; Did you intend for someone to sit in a Stealth Bomber for 20+ hours, making that system 100% useless because of a red/neutral sitting in it? Was that your goal was you released them?


There are many fixes I think could be implemented;

1. Auto-Log out after 30 minutes of not warping around, decloaking, enter a pos, docking up, etc.

2. Make Covert Ops cloaks scan-able. After x hours of sitting there, the person can be scanned out.

3. After 30 minutes of cloak being activated, or turned on, it decloaks you for 2 minutes, while it "recharges".



These are only some of the ideas. I'm tired of having people exploit a class of ships, and ruining the game play for others.

You say Titans & supers are overpowered, I say Covert Ops Cloaks are over powered. You say Machariels & Cynabals are over powered, I say Covert Ops Cloaks are broken even more.

Nuff said with the post. Stop releasing new ****, and start fixing the old ****. Great Game, ****** Developers. That simplifies eve in 4 words.
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2011-10-15 17:15:27 UTC
BinaryData wrote:
You say Titans & supers are overpowered, I say Covert Ops Cloaks are over powered. You say Machariels & Cynabals are over powered, I say Covert Ops Cloaks are broken even more.

You say covert ops cloaks are overpowered, eh? Because you're one of those people that is so scared of that afk-cloaky in your system that you are reduced to cowering in POS/Station smacking them in local? Get the **** over it.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
zzzczyzoznzoz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-10-15 17:16:46 UTC
cloaks work as intended

if they are afk they can do u no harm

if not ur forked and they are probally behind u
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-10-15 17:17:02 UTC
Stuff that doesn't need fixed ... that should be the subject of this thread.

My stealth bomber has a sleeper cab, so that it can remain in system indefinitely.

As for cloakies being scannable ... perhaps a special class of ship will be invented to allow for cloak scanning. Either way, not every ship should be able to do it, simply a specialized ship class, if at all.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2011-10-15 17:18:28 UTC
I have an idea.


Grow a pair and defend your system.
Mirima Thurander
#6 - 2011-10-15 17:23:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
cloaking removes you from local chat problem solved

you cant cower in fear of something if you don't know its there

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Thomas Abernathy
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2011-10-15 17:25:48 UTC
Yes, you should be perfectly safe in 0.0.....Roll

"Fighting CCD since 2139"
Famble
Three's a Crowd
#8 - 2011-10-15 17:30:31 UTC
Show us on the doll where the mean cloaker touched you.

If anyone ever looks at you and says,_ "Hold my beer, watch this,"_  you're probably going to want to pay attention.
BinaryData
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-10-15 17:53:02 UTC
Thomas Abernathy wrote:
Yes, you should be perfectly safe in 0.0.....Roll



That's not what I'm saying at all. Keep trolling, you obviously fail at it.


People are bitching about how over powered supers and titans are. Supers I can understand, titans? It's a ******* DOOMSDAY weapon. It's absurd to only allow it to hit capitals.

Covert Ops cloaks need to have a down side to them. You can warp, & fly with max speed while cloaked. Needs to have a stability timer or something to equalize it out. Otherwise it's just as overpowered as supers & titans.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2011-10-15 17:56:56 UTC
BinaryData wrote:
Thomas Abernathy wrote:
Yes, you should be perfectly safe in 0.0.....Roll



That's not what I'm saying at all. Keep trolling, you obviously fail at it.


People are bitching about how over powered supers and titans are. Supers I can understand, titans? It's a ******* DOOMSDAY weapon. It's absurd to only allow it to hit capitals.

Covert Ops cloaks need to have a down side to them. You can warp, & fly with max speed while cloaked. Needs to have a stability timer or something to equalize it out. Otherwise it's just as overpowered as supers & titans.


There is a drawback. Cov Ops ships cannot hurt anything or stop anyone from doing anything while cloaked.
zzzczyzoznzoz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-10-15 17:58:42 UTC
BinaryData wrote:
Thomas Abernathy wrote:
Yes, you should be perfectly safe in 0.0.....Roll



That's not what I'm saying at all. Keep trolling, you obviously fail at it.


People are bitching about how over powered supers and titans are. Supers I can understand, titans? It's a ******* DOOMSDAY weapon. It's absurd to only allow it to hit capitals.

Covert Ops cloaks need to have a down side to them. You can warp, & fly with max speed while cloaked. Needs to have a stability timer or something to equalize it out. Otherwise it's just as overpowered as supers & titans.


how the feck is it overpowered u cant do anything to people when ur cloaked
yeah u can fly around but so what
u have to decloak to cause trouble
and if they are afk u have nothing to worry about just grow some balls
BinaryData
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-10-15 18:00:43 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
BinaryData wrote:
Thomas Abernathy wrote:
Yes, you should be perfectly safe in 0.0.....Roll



That's not what I'm saying at all. Keep trolling, you obviously fail at it.


People are bitching about how over powered supers and titans are. Supers I can understand, titans? It's a ******* DOOMSDAY weapon. It's absurd to only allow it to hit capitals.

Covert Ops cloaks need to have a down side to them. You can warp, & fly with max speed while cloaked. Needs to have a stability timer or something to equalize it out. Otherwise it's just as overpowered as supers & titans.


There is a drawback. Cov Ops ships cannot hurt anything or stop anyone from doing anything while cloaked.


That's a drawback? My entire problem with them is the fact that you can sit in a system for hours and not even be at your computer. That's what my SOLE problem is, and it revolves around the cloak itself. You can sit in any system with a cloak, doesn't have to be a cov ops, and sit there for hours. You say that they can't hurt anything, have you see a White Noise bomber fleet drop bombs on an enemy fleet? Bombers are powerful but flimsy. By you saying they can't hurt anything, you sir, are a ******* moron.
Mirima Thurander
#13 - 2011-10-15 18:04:36 UTC
BinaryData wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
BinaryData wrote:
Thomas Abernathy wrote:
Yes, you should be perfectly safe in 0.0.....Roll



That's not what I'm saying at all. Keep trolling, you obviously fail at it.


People are bitching about how over powered supers and titans are. Supers I can understand, titans? It's a ******* DOOMSDAY weapon. It's absurd to only allow it to hit capitals.

Covert Ops cloaks need to have a down side to them. You can warp, & fly with max speed while cloaked. Needs to have a stability timer or something to equalize it out. Otherwise it's just as overpowered as supers & titans.


There is a drawback. Cov Ops ships cannot hurt anything or stop anyone from doing anything while cloaked.


That's a drawback? My entire problem with them is the fact that you can sit in a system for hours and not even be at your computer. That's what my SOLE problem is, and it revolves around the cloak itself. You can sit in any system with a cloak, doesn't have to be a cov ops, and sit there for hours. You say that they can't hurt anything, have you see a White Noise bomber fleet drop bombs on an enemy fleet? Bombers are powerful but flimsy. By you saying they can't hurt anything, you sir, are a ******* moron.



like i said cloaking removes you from local chat, if you don't know the guys in your system you can complain about him

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2011-10-15 18:04:54 UTC
BinaryData wrote:


That's a drawback? My entire problem with them is the fact that you can sit in a system for hours and not even be at your computer. That's what my SOLE problem is, and it revolves around the cloak itself. You can sit in any system with a cloak, doesn't have to be a cov ops, and sit there for hours. You say that they can't hurt anything, have you see a White Noise bomber fleet drop bombs on an enemy fleet? Bombers are powerful but flimsy. By you saying they can't hurt anything, you sir, are a ******* moron.



Tell me, how do you hurt people while AFK?
Mirima Thurander
#15 - 2011-10-15 18:04:59 UTC
cloaking removes you from local chat, if you don't know the guys in your system you can complain about him

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
zzzczyzoznzoz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-10-15 18:06:05 UTC  |  Edited by: zzzczyzoznzoz
quoting binary data

That's a drawback? My entire problem with them is the fact that you can sit in a system for hours and not even be at your computer.( = AFK nothing to worry about)
That's what my SOLE problem is(grow some balls)
, and it revolves around the cloak itself. You can sit in any system with a cloak, doesn't have to be a cov ops, and sit there for hours yeah and .working as intended

You say that they can't hurt anything, they cant when cloaked

have you see a White Noise bomber fleet drop bombs on an enemy fleet? Bombers are powerful but flimsy. By you saying they can't hurt anything, working as intendedBig smile

you sir, are a ******* moronBig smileBig smileBig smile right back at ya .[/quote]
Mirima Thurander
#17 - 2011-10-15 18:09:46 UTC
make cloaking remove you from local chat, if you don't know the guys in your system you can complain about him

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#18 - 2011-10-15 18:10:14 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
cloaking removes you from local chat, if you don't know the guys in your system you can complain about him


this may be the 0.0 fix we need to kill off the big power blocks

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Zerra Zeta
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-10-15 18:12:21 UTC
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Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#20 - 2011-10-15 18:22:05 UTC
I had a AFK Cloaker in my system when I lived in Null.

Do you know what I did?

I *GASP* went to another system!!

How may I drug you with drugs?
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