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Great post on reddit "What EVE PVP is like"

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Denidil
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-09-15 03:36:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Denidil
(i am not the author)

What EVE PVP is like

Quote:

Eve PVP goes like this.

You're trolling through low security space, jumping through interconnected systems that have been dead for hours when suddenly you see 3 new faces in Local that weren't there before. You instantly warp to a safe spot to make yourself harder to probe down while you do fast intel gathering, determining the three are part of the same, eight man mining corporation. By using the series of off grid bookmarks you've made in your territory, you use the directional scanner to identify three mining barges at a particular asteroid belt. You have no distant warp-ins and only the haziest idea where off the warp in point they will be, so you quickly leave the system to alleviate their suspicion and get into a cloaking ship. You hop back in, cloak and warp to their belt, creating bookmarks on roids that will land you near to them. Perhaps you have a buddy or two that you call up and let them know action is near. One might camp the nearest gate to hisec while another wait on your call to jump in. Your leave again, get into your combat ship, and warp to your fresh bookmark. Instantly, one of the barges that was properly aligned leaves, but the other two begin to ponderously turn towards a stargate. You turn on your afterburner as you wait for the lock-on-cycle to finish and manage to bump one off course just as your target locks and you cycle a warp scrambler on him. He's yours now. You call in your mate just as the other barge warps off to the stargate, and he's waiting on the other side to get a tackle on the second barge. Your target is frantically trying to get away from you, but he might as well be a hamstrung gazelle running from a lion. Your weapons are tearing into his armor, he's desperately offering ransom in local chat, and suddenly local spikes with four new people. You barely have time, but you make enough to check their info and find them to be a lowsec antipiracy corporation. You have your target in structure now, but suddenly new contacts appear on your overview -- combat ships, and expensive ones. You call both of your friends and tell them you need help as you align to a safespot, but just as your last missile volley tears the mining barge apart into a glorious explosion and you try to warp, the enemy scrams land on you. You see your friend hit the system, but your other friend is still 2 jumps out, and there are four of them and three of you. What happens? That's up to you.

No, wait... Eve PVP is like this...

You're zoomed so far out on the screen that all you see are purple and red squares. A large spreadsheet covers the right side of your view, while a target broadcasting window covers the left. You can see this ball of death only in a tiny area in the center of your screen. As targets are broadcast in the left window you attempt to click to lock on and fire at least one weapon cycle on them to get on the killmail before they pop. Often this is possible because half your fleet is shooting the wrong things. Eventually you find yourself in a pod and, depending on whether HICs are allowed in your part of space or not, may or may not escape with your life.

No, wait, Eve PVP is more like this...

You float in the emptiness of space, just outside the shimmering sphere of a POS shield. Your own Thanatos should be rights be awe-inspiring in size, but beside the three Avatars and the other capital class ships, you feel almost... average. You've been waiting, patiently, listening to voice comms becoming increasingly more frantic as the enemy encroaches on key systems that your entire alliance depends on for income. But you are the hammer, the quiet hand of god waiting to descend. The scouts are going down in a blaze of glory while fleets of your corporation's T3 strategic cruisers are trying to stem the tide when suddenly you get the call, "cyno lit". Nervous hands on the edge of shaking, you engage your ship's jump drive, one of several dozen that vanish and bridge the vast distances of space to appear in a scene of madness. Enemy capital ships target your largest threats, but you target them faster and begin remote repairs. Titans and Dreadnoughts are exchanging massive fire, so much that the server itself has to slow time to make the necessary calculations. Your target is going down faster than you can keep him up. You look at your overview, a sea of red and purple so long it's impossible to say who has more numbers. Remembering how long it took you to save up for your Thanatos, and all the dreams you had of this very moment, and the years of skill training, you launch and assign your drones, and enter Triage mode. The Avatar you're healing stabilizes, and your celebration lasts just as long as it takes your FC to say, "hostile cyno," and suddenly your fleet is no longer the biggest, baddest thing in the volume. Knowing that you're a sitting duck and an easy target, you cross your fingers and hope your fleetmates come through.

Or actually, EVE PVP is more like this...

God damnit, for the third time in as many hours, this bastard has undercut your price by a fraction of an ISK. Looking at sales volume and doing some quick mental math, you realize this has cost you over a hundred million ISK. This guy that you've never met and probably never will is ******* your bottom line, and that's just not acceptable. You hover over your contacts, considering taking out a contract on the guy, but realize that like you he probably never leaves the station. Using outside tools you check pricing in other regions, and then wonder, do I run away like a scared housecat, or do I take it to this guy? Check my margin spreadsheet again, how low can I go? How low dare I go? How do I get this guy out of my market, permanently?

Or maybe it's more like...

Well you get the idea.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.

Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-09-15 03:46:10 UTC
Sounds fun, cool story, thanks for sharing. Cool
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-09-15 03:46:41 UTC
Everyone knows you set up your overview so it doesn't show fleetmates

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-09-15 03:47:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Everyone knows you set up your overview so it doesn't show fleetmates

Yep, EVE University's Overview Guide says to create a seperate tab option for showing fleetmates so they don't clutter your overview.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-09-15 03:48:23 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Everyone knows you set up your overview so it doesn't show fleetmates

Yep, EVE University's Overview setup guide says to create a seperate tab option for showing fleetmates so they don't clutter your overview.


Exactly! Even RvB does this... clearly this poster has no idea how to Eve Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-09-15 04:03:39 UTC
hm i will give this 'eve' game a try
Ensign X
#7 - 2012-09-15 04:17:29 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
hm i will give this 'eve' game a try


Don't do it. It's terrible. It will eat your soul.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-09-15 04:19:02 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
hm i will give this 'eve' game a try


Don't do it. It's terrible. It will eat your soul.


hmmm, no but I do know it won't call you again Cry

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#9 - 2012-09-15 04:25:39 UTC
Awwww, they forgot to mention wormhole pvp. Which might go a little like this...

You're sitting on a hole, cloaked. You know your prey is out there, you've seen them probe your home system down. They go from 8 AU, to 4, to 2, and finally 1. They have it. Now you have to gauge what's coming next? Will it be a scout? A t3 fleet? Maybe even a battleship fleet to roll holes? No. You see the hole flash. The hole is suddenly at half. Dear god, it's an orca and a revelation. Those daft fools. The rev jumps back first. Wait, the hole is now closed. Did they just royally mess up? They did. How glorious. You uncloak and point the orca and call friends in to pounce on it. It goes down fast. Turns out speed tanking is not an orca's forte. You grin. "Not too shabby" you think to yourself. "Not too shabby at all."

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

Denidil
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-09-15 04:47:27 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Everyone knows you set up your overview so it doesn't show fleetmates


i don't know about you.. but i have a tab that specifically is not filtered for blues/fleet. now normally i'm not on that tab.. but if i want to swap over and see a us vs them breakdown i can flip over.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.

TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#11 - 2012-09-15 10:12:54 UTC
They forgot to mention station PVP:

You sit inside, staring at the hull of your ship. Local flashes with the ungodly rage of station campers, calling you profanities and a "useless scrub". You grin to yourself, knowing that on your second monitor ponies keep you entertained while six protei and a brutix sit outside uselessly. Your episode of MLP finishes, and you take a brief 30 seconds to spin your ship and feed the flames of the smack some more before starting another.

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-09-15 11:00:09 UTC
They forgot to mention forum PvP...


HTFU,hisec/lowsec/Nullsec is broken,fix tengu/falcon/drake etc.etc.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2012-09-15 11:08:22 UTC
Moved from EVE General Discussion.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Laktos
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-09-16 03:22:05 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Everyone knows you set up your overview so it doesn't show fleetmates


Not all of us fly in blobs. :hmph:

Latest PVP Video: Perseverance

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DR BiCarbonate
Doomriders.
#15 - 2012-09-16 04:16:50 UTC
Laktos wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Everyone knows you set up your overview so it doesn't show fleetmates


Not all of us fly in blobs. :hmph:

^^
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#16 - 2012-09-16 11:04:49 UTC
He got it wrong in his second sentence.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Laktos
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-09-16 13:38:31 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
He got it wrong in his second sentence.


Yeah more like, you instantly hit d-scan and figure out that all 3 are docked at a station or afk in a pos. Cry to yourself a little bit and continue on.

Latest PVP Video: Perseverance

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Griznatle
Did he say Jump
#18 - 2012-09-17 18:21:01 UTC
im still confused on how he went into triage after he assigned fighters....
as someone new to capital logi i would like to know more about this
Viribus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-09-17 19:21:49 UTC
You lost me at "great post on reddit"
Smiknight
Smiknight Corporation
#20 - 2012-09-18 00:31:17 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
hm i will give this 'eve' game a try


Do, I am sure you will relish the time spent in a NPC corp. P
A reward devoid of risk is no reward at all, but is instead a handout.
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