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Do Single Account Cap Pilots Exist?
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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#41 - 2012-09-13 13:19:07 UTC
If you have the carrier as a much-used corporate asset it's reasonable to ask people to cyno you around, I think.

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TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#42 - 2012-09-13 15:49:59 UTC
At the time I flew capitals, I had only one account.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-09-13 16:00:54 UTC
I am technically a single account capital pilot. I fly Carriers and Dreads for both Caldari and Amarr and currently have only one account. I have a second account not active right now that had a character that could cyno although I rarely used it. Usually my corp mates or at least others in the alliance are able to facilitate cyno's for me like I do for them.

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Matarella
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#44 - 2012-09-13 16:52:13 UTC
MisterNick wrote:
If you have the carrier as a much-used corporate asset it's reasonable to ask people to cyno you around, I think.


same idea.

I got my Thanatos from the corp to use for the corp. I also ask for cyno's.

Although I have a second account with a cyno character under 900K SP so I suicide it to all our office systems were cyno ships await him.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#45 - 2012-09-13 17:14:01 UTC
Gogela wrote:
I don't know anyone with a jump capable ship and no cyno alt at least.... Straight


I know a couple and they drive us crazy asking for cynos.

I honestly find it irritating, I could afford to pay for 2 accounts with plex only LONG before I was or could have trained for a capital ship. Making money in EVE (even with seriously limited play time, damn work and kids) is so easy there's no real excuse to not have a cyno alt. The 2 guys in my alliance I mention mostly play that damn tanks game or some other stuff and only log on when there is an op where a fight is assured, then they leave right after back to their instant gratification games rather than spending 30 minutes making isk for an alt.

I personally pretty much refuse to cyno for them anymore.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#46 - 2012-09-13 17:21:09 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gogela wrote:
I don't know anyone with a jump capable ship and no cyno alt at least.... Straight


I know a couple and they drive us crazy asking for cynos.

I honestly find it irritating, I could afford to pay for 2 accounts with plex only LONG before I was or could have trained for a capital ship. Making money in EVE (even with seriously limited play time, damn work and kids) is so easy there's no real excuse to not have a cyno alt. The 2 guys in my alliance I mention mostly play that damn tanks game or some other stuff and only log on when there is an op where a fight is assured, then they leave right after back to their instant gratification games rather than spending 30 minutes making isk for an alt.

I personally pretty much refuse to cyno for them anymore.

This ^

Cyno beggars are like "couch guys" in collage... yah he's a cool dude and yah he's your friend... but it's getting annoying.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-09-13 17:30:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Gogela wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gogela wrote:
I don't know anyone with a jump capable ship and no cyno alt at least.... Straight


I know a couple and they drive us crazy asking for cynos.

I honestly find it irritating, I could afford to pay for 2 accounts with plex only LONG before I was or could have trained for a capital ship. Making money in EVE (even with seriously limited play time, damn work and kids) is so easy there's no real excuse to not have a cyno alt. The 2 guys in my alliance I mention mostly play that damn tanks game or some other stuff and only log on when there is an op where a fight is assured, then they leave right after back to their instant gratification games rather than spending 30 minutes making isk for an alt.

I personally pretty much refuse to cyno for them anymore.

This ^

Cyno beggars are like "couch guys" in collage... yah he's a cool dude and yah he's your friend... but it's getting annoying.

People that ask for a cyno from me get them. I don't mind at all. It's a team effort. I want my buddies in cap ships to have the availability to move around when they need it. No reason to expect them to pay extra money to CCP for a mechanic that sucks. It's not like the 2 weeks of training and minimal cost of fuel is a problem either.

Only reason I ever had any other accounts was for mining alts. I just happened to train them for cyno's as well for the heck of it. Now I don't even use them.

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Myxx
The Scope
#48 - 2012-09-13 17:37:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Myxx
There are three or maybe at most four others in this entire game that aren't me that I would trust with lighting a cyno for me. That is actually stretching it. Its more like two people, the other two just don't have a reason to put a knife in my back, yet.

so no, I use my alt to do that, most of the time. It really is required in a way, at least if you want to remain in possession of your capital for any length of reasonable time.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#49 - 2012-09-13 17:51:55 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Gogela wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gogela wrote:
I don't know anyone with a jump capable ship and no cyno alt at least.... Straight


I know a couple and they drive us crazy asking for cynos.

I honestly find it irritating, I could afford to pay for 2 accounts with plex only LONG before I was or could have trained for a capital ship. Making money in EVE (even with seriously limited play time, damn work and kids) is so easy there's no real excuse to not have a cyno alt. The 2 guys in my alliance I mention mostly play that damn tanks game or some other stuff and only log on when there is an op where a fight is assured, then they leave right after back to their instant gratification games rather than spending 30 minutes making isk for an alt.

I personally pretty much refuse to cyno for them anymore.

This ^

Cyno beggars are like "couch guys" in collage... yah he's a cool dude and yah he's your friend... but it's getting annoying.

People that ask for a cyno from me get them. I don't mind at all. It's a team effort. I want my buddies in cap ships to have the availability to move around when they need it. No reason to expect them to pay extra money to CCP for a mechanic that sucks. It's not like the 2 weeks of training and minimal cost of fuel is a problem either.

Only reason I ever had any other accounts was for mining alts. I just happened to train them for cyno's as well for the heck of it. Now I don't even use them.


Yea, but a "team effort" goes both ways.

With the "Couch guys" (good term Gogela), they never seem to be around to light a cyno or move ships for anyone else. I light cynos for anyone who asks, except the 2 "mates" I mention, they can get on a cyno IF I'm already doing one for myself or someone else, but I don't make any special effort for people who could do the very simply things it takes to do their own.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#50 - 2012-09-13 17:54:02 UTC
i am a single account cap pilot and i haz friends :-P
Spurty
#51 - 2012-09-13 18:48:12 UTC
There's very few pod pilots you should ever trust with opening cynos for you.

Sometimes, even your own self lights cynos in bad places (nano caps bumping off of station appendages).

As previously mentioned, solo cap pilots are often soon cap less. The bigger the cap, the more assured the bad ending lol

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BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#52 - 2012-09-13 19:30:54 UTC
9 year vet and 4 year cap pilot here. Never had an alt, probably never will.

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Leisen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-09-14 11:28:39 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
9 year vet and 4 year cap pilot here. Never had an alt, probably never will.


You, sir, are a hero.
LilRemmy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2012-09-14 11:33:11 UTC  |  Edited by: LilRemmy
They exist, not super cap pilots however, nor titan pilots. If they do, I pity them for the limitations to their game.

As for the people who never trust anyone to cyno for them, I pity you as well, I hope you find better people to play with where such concerns would be at a minimum. I could not imagine playing EVE without people to play with whom I trust fully. In fact, if I were in a corp where I did not trust anyone to cyno for me, I think I would leave in a heartbeat.
eddie valvetino
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#55 - 2012-09-14 11:52:45 UTC
Leisen wrote:
I really want to know, are there capital ship pilots with one account? No cyno alt? What about super cap pilots? Anyone stuck in their super with their only account?

Something I've always wanted to do at some point in my EVE career is fly a carrier (hence spending time time to train Caldari Carrier V, Fighters V, and Fighter Bombers because why not at this point). However I've never really been able to do that, because despite putting the time in and learning the basics (regarding carriers) via reading and sisi, I lack a secondary account. Whether it's for logistics (including cyno, no one wants to be there to move your ass whenever you decide you want to move), or for some subcap fun (assuming main is stuck in a super, and you just have to keep your training going lol).

Now, I don't really expect to find anyone who flies caps and has a single account, but I hope to. On the off chance there are any of you out there, I'd love to know how you pull it off so that maybe I can as well. Big smile

In the event that I don't find any cap pilots with a single account, I would instead like to ask; is it wrong for CCP to make a game where an alt account is necessary?

I understand that EVE is multiplayer, but I don't think anyone is going to argue that some 'multiplayer' aspects of EVE hardly seem realistic. As previously stated, no one is going to cyno you around whenever you feel like moving.

Discuss.


I think, due the importance of triage carriers and the fact you can get out of them, means that most carriers are flewn on mains.
For titans (most of which never drop into a fight anyway) nearly ALL will be in dedicated alts, often trained only to fire up bridges.

Super Carriers... not so sure, I think there will be a lot of options here, holding toons barely skilled to free up a main with skills other than super skills and dedicated alts. but i doubt anyone puts their mains perminantly into a super. this toon has over 100mil sp, 85 mill of those will be wasted if i sit in a Nyx or something.

Personally, I think super carriers should be dockable, they are no long "mini-stations" as they used to be.
eddie valvetino
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#56 - 2012-09-14 11:53:41 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
9 year vet and 4 year cap pilot here. Never had an alt, probably never will.


cap or super cap?
Selinate
#57 - 2012-09-14 14:34:07 UTC
Leisen wrote:
I really want to know, are there capital ship pilots with one account? No cyno alt? What about super cap pilots? Anyone stuck in their super with their only account?

Something I've always wanted to do at some point in my EVE career is fly a carrier (hence spending time time to train Caldari Carrier V, Fighters V, and Fighter Bombers because why not at this point). However I've never really been able to do that, because despite putting the time in and learning the basics (regarding carriers) via reading and sisi, I lack a secondary account. Whether it's for logistics (including cyno, no one wants to be there to move your ass whenever you decide you want to move), or for some subcap fun (assuming main is stuck in a super, and you just have to keep your training going lol).

Now, I don't really expect to find anyone who flies caps and has a single account, but I hope to. On the off chance there are any of you out there, I'd love to know how you pull it off so that maybe I can as well. Big smile

In the event that I don't find any cap pilots with a single account, I would instead like to ask; is it wrong for CCP to make a game where an alt account is necessary?

I understand that EVE is multiplayer, but I don't think anyone is going to argue that some 'multiplayer' aspects of EVE hardly seem realistic. As previously stated, no one is going to cyno you around whenever you feel like moving.

Discuss.



YES. IT IS.
Medarr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2012-09-14 15:22:38 UTC
Makes a list of all pilots without a cyno alt whom apperantly cant cyno out without aid and thus make a nice juicy target.

OpSec much?
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#59 - 2012-09-14 16:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: BoBoZoBo
eddie valvetino wrote:
BoBoZoBo wrote:
9 year vet and 4 year cap pilot here. Never had an alt, probably never will.


cap or super cap?


Both +Titan - I have to admit, I have almost pulled the trigger many times out of convenience, but:

1) I am too lazy/buzzy to maintain/log/manage two accounts just for a cyno, and
2) Everyone keeps saying this is a multiplayer game and you should rely on your corp-mates.

Honestly - I think Cynos should be done away with. Aside from an income revenue for CCP, all it does is **** people off and annoy everyone. To use a toons time (alt or main) just to fly somewhere and light a cyno is a bit silly, especially since its such a low SP skill requirement.

Let the ships jump to their destination system like every other sci-fi concept of a ship that bends space-time. Maybe a compromise between the two. You can jump solo to a random location in a target system @ X distance without a cyno, or to a pinpointed with a location in a target system @ X+10-20% distance with a cyno.

Just does not feel right I need to have a cyno to jump.

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Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#60 - 2012-09-14 17:43:17 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
eddie valvetino wrote:
BoBoZoBo wrote:
9 year vet and 4 year cap pilot here. Never had an alt, probably never will.


cap or super cap?


Both +Titan - I have to admit, I have almost pulled the trigger many times out of convenience, but:

1) I am too lazy/buzzy to maintain/log/manage two accounts just for a cyno, and
2) Everyone keeps saying this is a multiplayer game and you should rely on your corp-mates.

Honestly - I think Cynos should be done away with. Aside from an income revenue for CCP, all it does is **** people off and annoy everyone. To use a toons time (alt or main) just to fly somewhere and light a cyno is a bit silly, especially since its such a low SP skill requirement.

Let the ships jump to their destination system like every other sci-fi concept of a ship that bends space-time. Maybe a compromise between the two. You can jump solo to a random location in a target system @ X distance without a cyno, or to a pinpointed location in a target system @ X+10-20% distance.

Just does not feel right I need to have a cyno to jump.


^ This.

Another option is to have the Cap ship 'target' a system, (you can bring up the system and click on a location in it) that they will be jumping to. A Cyno lights off in that location (so others in target system still see the cyno), and the connection is made *JUMP*. Doing it this way means you are jumping blind if you don't have a scout there, but it also means you do not NEED a cyno pilot.

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