Science & Industry

Hello Everyone!
I am calling on all of you to help us manifest a Miners Codex.

The idea behind it is to have a voluntary list of things that is expedient and a appropriate code of conduct for miners and industrials alike!

We have made a crude draft for this, and we ask all of you to chip in, and make this a community project.
Reason for this is twofold.

1. We get a better codex
2. There is a larger chance of people adhering to the codex.

The goal of the codex is to get some respect again from the community. We aren't all AFK/RMT/BOTTING etc.
But we do acknowledge that it is a problem.
Instead of whining about it, we thought it would be a good idea to be proactive instead.

So please, without further ado, let the brainstorming commence.

ORE IS CORE
Honesty
Integrity
Modesty
Loyalty
Civility

The Mining Code or Miners Codex is essentially a basic set of rules and guidelines, miners willingly chose to adhere to.

This is an open document, and will be regulated and modified based on input from the player base.



Rule 1
You will behave like a gentleman in all manners of conduct, interaction and trade.

• No smack, tears, grief or flames


• Do not take what is not yours (wrecks, loot, asteroids, rats)


• No scamming


• Bait, traps and cans.

Rule 2
You will remain in positive security standing and not willingly commit any acts of crime

• Always maintain a NHDS policy

Rule 3
You will only mine what you need

• Fields and ownership
• Need vs. Greed
• Stripping and cleaning

Rule 4
You will only sell what you need

• Sell order vs. buy order
• Need vs. Greed
• Maintaining stock
• Sink vs. Faucet
• Mineral Index

Rule 5
No AFK mining, RMT’ing or botting. (Or any other violations of the EULA in any kind or way)

• This also includes giving others the impression of botting, RMT’ing or AFK mining.

Rule 6
Give more than you take

• Give to your co-workers, corporation and alliance.

PS:

The idea is also to elaborate, and write a smallish article about each stub and what it implies.

I.e.

No smack, tears, grief or flames

Do not take what is not yours (wrecks, loot, asteroids, rats)

No scamming

Bait, traps and cans.

Always maintain a NHDS policy

Fields and ownership

Need vs. Greed

Stripping and cleaning

Sell order vs. buy order

Need vs. Greed

Maintaining stock

Sink vs. Faucet

Mineral Index

This also includes giving others the impression of botting, RMT’ing or AFK mining.

Give to your co-workers, corporation and alliance.

PPS: Also feedback on the idea to create such a codex is more than welcome.


Please keep it civil and constructive.
Please don't derail the thread!

In advance thank you :)

Reserved*

Thank you for your feedback, I do acknowledge that this is not for everyone.

Also the prime ingredient in getting anyone to follow this is that it has to be voluntary to opt in :)

The issue about respect is a two way street.! (i.e. you get what you give)

Weird. Silly. Pointless. Useless. Meaningless. I'm not even sure wtf this is. Did you sustain a concussion or something?

+1

Well I am not exactly sure.
This is a DRAFT. And we are asking for community feedback.
This was the way WE saw it.


Rule 2 would accomplish, some honor and integrity that would go with rule 1.
Perhaps rule 2 should just be a sub rule of rule 1.


These rules are perhaps not necessary per say.
We do feel they are needed. Miners are being hated from all sides, we are the scum of EVE.
Big events are made to kill us, harass us, drive us away from EVE and much much more.
If we could change some of the bad behavior that have earned us the reputation of not being willing to accept risk, breaking TOS with botting. That we all are Chinese farmers etc.

We as miners have a responsibility for the server.
We are the front line of EVE. We supply the minerals necessary to keep the gears of war turning.

Therefore we feel it is necessary to have a code of conduct. For various reasons.
1: Will help us regain some of the lost respect.
2: Will help us create a healthier and more constructive environment for miners and industrials alike.
3: Will increase the health of the economy and thereby also the health of the server.
4: Will make it easier for miners to actually make a good profit
5: Dunno anymore off the bat, so I am just making stuff up as I write it.

Good points, thank you for contributing :)

While I do not agree with them all, does not mean that they does not hold any merit :)


Remember key word is VOLUNTARY ;)

In my experience you make the most as a miner when you are actually at your keyboard, surveying the fields, managing cycles etc.
Having logistics and proper leadership, as well as an sufficient escort etc. Further boosts output.

Not getting harassed and suicide ganked is also something that is good for profits :)

Wasn't aware there were player owned belts... ?

i am not sure about this "easy, no effort...anybody can do it" thing.

1. not everybody has an alt to mine while his main does other "more important" stuff.
2. pure mining (ship into belt, target roid, activate cycle) might not require much skill,
BUT
managing mining OP´s, spreading income and payment across various people who took part,
managing a whole industrious endeavour IS something not so many can do per se.
I am a firm believer that this actually is harder and more challenging than be part of a 400 man fleet and just listen to your FC on when and where to jump and who´s gonna be primaried.
3. miners, as any part of the eve economy, need and are worth of respect. as in real life....everbody is worthy of getting respect... as is the busboy who cleans dishes or tables at a restaurant. just because he works for less or has not the skillset that you do deosnt mean he´s worth of respect

my ramblings have nothing to do with the codex of course, which i deem a bit silly because, miners and industrialists are the premiere capitalists in eve and not really interested in lowering their efficiency and potential income