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Hi,

i am pretty sure you will be able to run eve at a low resolution and low settings. I would not call it playing eve though.
Maybe some basic skill swapping and station trading.....but that's it.

Why have a i5 and 16gigs ram, and use an integrated? Its not like standalone cards are that expensive. Regardless it shouldn't have much issues, just turn off CQ and do low settings and you should be alright.

in a word.. forget trying to play eve with it, unless you get some kind of decent graphics card installed, your pc will only be good to view the web with.. heres a link that shows what you can.. but mostly what you cannot do with the intell hd 4000.

Futuremark review of Intel hd 4000

only if he stays docked..

and it clearly states a benchmark for Eve.. so.. how specific exactly does it have to be.

Thread moved from GD to OOPE - ISD Type40.


On a personal note, the Intel HD 4000 should run EVE just fine, though not at maximum settings. I myself run on a cheap Compaq Presario with an AMD APU, a system that is definitely not as good as the Intel HD 4000.

Side-note: the integrated graphics side shares (parts of the) cache and memory bandwidth with the CPU side, so it actually fares a bit worse than a standalone graphics card of similar number/speed of shaders.

Yes, the HD4000 inside a 3570K should be able to run EVE in FullHD at medium-ish graphics settings with probably around 40 FPS while station-spinning...
...BUT it would be a shame to not spend ~55 USD on a 1 GB Radeon HD 6570 with which you could get around 80 FPS at near-max (no AA) graphic detail in FullHD while station-spinning.
Expect usual performance in less sparse environments to be even half of that.

You might not be building a gaming PC, but you might as well use it as such if the need ever arises.
You will find it difficult to encounter many other instances where spending just 55 extra bucks will very roughly triple your gameplay performance, so I would call that money well spent (even if you don't yet think you really need it).

Side-note: the best "bang for buck" these days would be a 1GB Radeon HD 6750, should cost around 95 USD and get you up to 160 FPS station-spinning in FullHD at near-max graphic detail.

That being said, if you don't mind low graphics details and/or low FPS, and if the idea of getting a standalone graphics card even at that price point is loathsome, you can play EVE without it just fine.
Just know what you're likely to expect. EVE remains mostly playable even under 15 FPS, but not overly pleasant.
I've been playing EVE at low single digit FPS myself for a long time in the more distant past (up to about 4 years ago, on a GeForce FX 5600), and one can get used to it, even if you don't exactly like it. Switched to a GeForce 8500 GT (4 years ago, and then, about 2 years ago, to a Radeon HD 4350 - for which I paid around 70 USD back then, IIRC - when the other one fried, just a couple of weeks before building a brand new machine altogether ; the Radeon HD 4350 machine is still alive as backup and/or for guests, so I've seen it in action recently too), and those are still playable (for my current gameplay style) even at max detail in nearly FullHD (a bit under 30 FPS station-spinning).

The Intel HD 4000 should be better than the Radeon HD 4350 either way, so, yeah, the integrated graphics is not great, but will probably do fine for most solo activities.
Slightly frustrating for PvP roaming even in a small gang, though. Not much, but enough to lower enjoyment a bit.

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P.S. @ISD TYPE40: actually, the AMD APUs are (generally speaking, that is) slightly better for graphics and far worse at raw processing power than Intel CPUs with Intel HD graphics. An AMD APU will get better FPS for casual EVE gameplay, while an Intel CPU with Intel HD graphics will fare better in fleet-scale combat (both will do poorly, but the Intel will be far less bad). Combined with a cheap-ish standalone graphics card, the Intel CPU will be noticeably better overall.

Well time will tell. There is always room for GFX card if I need it. But it will be Nvidia, if I decide to get one

Thanks from all the answers!

16G of ram, but can't be bothered to get a cheap video card? If you do change your mind:

Best Graphics Cards For The Money: September 2012

Graphics cards charts

All 2011 Entry-Level Graphics (In case you can find an old card on the cheap.)

if someone can tell he how to disable my graphics switching, and purely enable my HD4000, I'll tell you how it plays.

I am 100% sure eve will run well with it, as my cheap PC runs eve fine at low settings and it has something inbetween intel 2k and intel 3k. with a crap CPU to boot.
so i would estimate medium detail for your intel 4k.