EVE General Discussion

If there was a freighter buff, haulers would just ride the risk limit of that buff, and it would just end up like nothing happened at all.

I was being facetious

Why does the webbing ship have to be heavily tanked?

It just seems to me like the webbing ship is a target of such low consequence that nobody's going to bother getting their ganking ships blown up over it.

Then again a frigate would take just a handful of volleys from a destroyer...

You know if you carry less than about 3 or 4 billion you can do this yourself right? Stop being so stupid.

I would recommend you learn your place, considering the only trips you make into highsec are too and from market hubs and your wormhole. http://i.imgur.com/85JJl.png
You've been in 5 corps since my highsec crew started our work. We have our own hilarious standards. The fact that you have to cower in a wormhole as a result of highsec diaspora is proof enough.
((soz m8))


I'm sorry sir if you think we are just warping in and pressing shoot.

A great deal of effort and work goes into this. We have a production team to keep us in ships. We started the gank fest with a 1bil investment. The cost of the gank usually mirrors the cost of the freighter hull, unlike miners who can be owned by 2 destroyers at a fraction of the cost. Lots of coordination is required on the production, scanning, bumping, hauling, salvaging, market clearing, and ultimately execution. These strikes are surgical. It is a gamble every time that we execute one of these ganks, and we have a risk/reward formula that we use to ensure that our ganks are free until the end of time.

Every one of our gankers gets a free ship because our previous ganks (seed of 1bil) fund future ganks. This is a playstyle.
If you autopilot in a freighter, you die. If you cruise around with 10bil worth of stuff and don't double-wrap, you die. To clarify, 4 different freighter pilots have died to us TWICE within 30 days (some within 48hours) because they failed to evolve. Mind your surroundings. Be more cautious, hell even be smart. We kill individuals who lack this capacity. Several people have slipped through our fingers by using just a modicum of intelligence. Poetic Stanziel wrote a great piece on how not to be dumb when you have expensive stuff to move. Always use collateral. General Freight cans exist for a reason. If you are a dumb and lazy freighter pilot, chances are you will die if you move through a tradehub pipe.

When you are the very best at something, you take pride in it. How many of you can say you are the best at something?

And since we're giving away tips to the terminally unteachable, I'll throw in my standard latecomer addition:

Since we now have auto-dock and corp bookmarks, have one of your scouts run ahead to the station you're docking in and snuggle riiiiight up against the hull of that station. Not “warp to zero”, but many many km beyond that… and bookmark that spot for the corp.

When the freighter comes out of the gate, don't warp to the station. Instead, set it as your destination and warp to the newly made bookmark (and if it's a station you indent to come back to, keep it around for later). Once you've started warping, activate autopilot and kick back. For a normal highsec station, you will arrive somewhere 20–40km inside of docking range rather than ±2.5km away from it; you will dock instantly when coming out of warp; if, by the strangest happenstance, you get a second of exposure between warp invulnerability and docking invulnerability, you will be faaaaar away from awaiting ganking ships and bumping frigates and whatever else might be in store for you. If someone set up a classic casual smartbomb gank on the normal landing spot… well, hey, you're not even going there so lol@them. Yes, you will most likely bump off the station, but since you are already cleared for docking and half-way through a session change by then, it doesn't matter.

In fact, even if you're not flying something large and cumbersome, this is a nice thing to have because it means that, for instance, you get to keep your BR cloak on for longer and don't have to worry about the whole “can't dock because of cloak” or the silly delay-before-docking work-around they've implemented. Just landuncloakdock in a single server tick.

…oh, and while your making those last few warps, that scout can take the opportunity to set up a nice insta for when you want to undock and toss it in with the warp-in bookmark in the proper corp folder.

4 freighters with 20bil in loot means 4 idiots had at least 5bil inside a freighter.
either
A make multiple trips
B sell it somewhere else and buy it back somewhere
C go right after downtime and have a scout see if there is a gank camp.

You lost my attention when you started bragging about being good at a video game and calling other people dumb. That and your smug avatar really makes me wanna punch you.

I'm done with this topic, it seems that all it has to offer are a bunch of holier than thou null jockeys trying to **** in the highsec cheerios because they've made their own part of the sanbox a bore.

We are explaining to you, in very simple easy to understand details, how to avoid the very ganks that we are carrying out. It is hilariously simple to not get ganked. There are 11 pages of people explaining how to do it, to summarize :

Don't carry too much stuff in one freighter
Don't fly through known dangerous pipes
Don't fly at peak times
Don't fly solo (use a scout/webber/logistics)
Think about your cargo and maybe use a different ship to haul it (low volume? Blockade Runner. High Value? Jump freighter has twice the EHP of a regular one.)

Its REALLY EASY to not get ganked. But just how it was really easy to not get your Hulk exploded during hulkageddon (fit some tank instead of full cargo expanders you idiots) if you bleat hard enough CCP will probably do something.