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vampire knight
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-10-15 01:14:59 UTC
I would like to see a Ships build date, who built it, were and whos owned it and for how long.. We can call it Ship Histroy? Then we can all say ive had this ship for this long and its still here.. You can even go farther and put in what kinda combat its seen, close calls and so on.. And make sure everyone can see it even in the market before you buy it. I just think it would be a cool little feature for everyone to enjoy.. and while were at it can we add to the pod killmails what implants and hardwires that person lost.. not just the ship Cool
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#2 - 2011-10-15 01:16:51 UTC
vampire knight wrote:
I would like to see a Ships build date, who built it, were and whos owned it and for how long.. We can call it Ship Histroy? Then we can all say ive had this ship for this long and its still here.. You can even go farther and put in what kinda combat its seen, close calls and so on.. And make sure everyone can see it even in the market before you buy it. I just think it would be a cool little feature for everyone to enjoy.. and while were at it can we add to the pod killmails what implants and hardwires that person lost.. not just the ship Cool


fun, but a terrible waste of DB
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#3 - 2011-10-15 01:20:51 UTC
It was a crazy feature that the community manager at the time dared imagined once, that olderships would retian thier looks while newer ships would look newer. Among other things.

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mkint
#4 - 2011-10-15 01:25:04 UTC
While it would be interesting, and Nova's idea is even cooler (as ships are reskinned, ships before the reskin still look old) the database is just not smart enough to do it. Any time you repackage anything it's turned into a generic item with no name, history, or even stats. Cool idea but would require an entire rewrite of the entire database to function like you say, and having that be the title feature of a whole expansion would be bad™.

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#5 - 2011-10-15 01:47:22 UTC
Cool feature, that adds some immersion but add no practical content.

Although is it really hard to add an unique registry number to built and packaged ships? And have that number go to the ship once it gets assembled?

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1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-10-15 01:49:15 UTC
I would like a shipfax report everytime I buy a new ship so I can know if the original owner took good care of it before I bought it 
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#7 - 2011-10-15 01:56:18 UTC
vampire knight wrote:
I would like to see a Ships build date, who built it, were and whos owned it and for how long.. We can call it Ship Histroy? Then we can all say ive had this ship for this long and its still here.. You can even go farther and put in what kinda combat its seen, close calls and so on.. And make sure everyone can see it even in the market before you buy it. I just think it would be a cool little feature for everyone to enjoy.. and while were at it can we add to the pod killmails what implants and hardwires that person lost.. not just the ship Cool


Too much extra DB traffic. I'd say, start a blog instead. More creative than some stats on ships. Most ships sold are factory fresh anyway, so not much history on them.

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vampire knight
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-15 02:07:23 UTC
Think of it as a VIN number to your car or motorcycle.. even if you took your car apart it would still have the vin number.. it wouldnt matter how many times you repackaged it and put it back together. Another word could be ship log.. Because i know ive had some (Shiny) ships for a long time and i know what they have been through and the close calls say like in Incursions. My Vindicator has seen structure more then once Shocked I would just like others to show info on a ship and say wow thats some serious sh*t that ship has went through.. Take Titans and Supercarriers for example and the wars and battles and close calls they have seen.. You can Brag to your friends other people can look and see. is it really alot of wasted DB? do you not care and cherish certain ships? it can go right along with ship skins i think.. i just had to give out my idea i feel better just thought it would be something nice. Pirate
Foodpimp
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-10-15 02:09:24 UTC
Better yet.....Customizable "bumper stickers" you can put on your ship...people can read em when they zoom in.
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#10 - 2011-10-15 02:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Aidan Brooder
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Take Titans and Supercarriers for example and the wars and battles and close calls they have seen.. You can Brag to your friends other people can look and see. is it really alot of wasted DB?


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Yes, it sounds like wasted time. Ship names or Ship SNs for battleclinic killboards perhaps. Would do the same job better. Search by ship name, find ship history.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#11 - 2011-10-15 02:35:33 UTC
mkint wrote:
While it would be interesting, and Nova's idea is even cooler (as ships are reskinned, ships before the reskin still look old) the database is just not smart enough to do it. Any time you repackage anything it's turned into a generic item with no name, history, or even stats. Cool idea but would require an entire rewrite of the entire database to function like you say, and having that be the title feature of a whole expansion would be bad™.



belive it or not this is arbitarily already on the DB. Now the problem is running a script to slap a born on date on all these ships.

And no its not my idea, it was a community manager some time before.

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Jita Alt666
#12 - 2011-10-15 02:45:54 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
mkint wrote:
While it would be interesting, and Nova's idea is even cooler (as ships are reskinned, ships before the reskin still look old) the database is just not smart enough to do it. Any time you repackage anything it's turned into a generic item with no name, history, or even stats. Cool idea but would require an entire rewrite of the entire database to function like you say, and having that be the title feature of a whole expansion would be bad™.



belive it or not this is arbitarily already on the DB. Now the problem is running a script to slap a born on date on all these ships.

And no its not my idea, it was a community manager some time before.



I belive it.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-10-15 05:35:41 UTC
With anything less than a supercap this is quite simply impossible. Ships can be repackaged and then stacked, which basically turns them into a DB entry that says "10 Hurricanes". Unless you want to attach 10 (or 100, or 1000) descriptions to a single item, you can't do it. Then comes the question what happens when I pull two 'canes from the stack - which two descriptions do I get?

Supercapitals, technically possible as you can't repackage them, but IMHO not worth the programming effort.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#14 - 2011-10-15 05:42:57 UTC
ahhh abdiel does bring up a point that can wipe out that DB entry.

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-10-15 06:07:33 UTC
vampire knight wrote:
Take Titans and Supercarriers for example and the wars and battles and close calls they have seen.. You can Brag to your friends other people can look and see. is it really alot of wasted DB?

I don't know how CCP's DB works, but I can take educated guesses. If you set it so that a ship would retain its date of creation even after repackaging, I would guess that this would at minimum double the size of the database.

If every ship is exactly the same, you can have one ship entry, and reference it for every instance of that ship. If each ship has a unique date attached to it, you need one entry per dated ship in existence.

It would be slow to search and it would take a huge amount of disk space.

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