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How rich is rich?

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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-09-10 13:28:10 UTC
Rich is when you can afford what you need and all it's left is what you want.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave

Arbiter Reformed
I Have a Plan
Shadow Cartel
#42 - 2012-09-10 13:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Arbiter Reformed
done right c5-c6 wormholes make around 6-700 mill an hour, ive known people to make 5 bill in an evening rather regularly

id say rich is 100b
Dennis Gregs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-09-10 13:34:22 UTC
Depends on what you want to do with that ISK...
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#44 - 2012-09-10 14:45:18 UTC
The top 1% of eve has over a trillion isk. Just to put some perspective on that for you.
Maxxatan
SSEO KG
#45 - 2012-09-10 14:45:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Maxxatan
My net worth is 120B or so and I get called poor on a regular basis. I'd say rich and poor varies by what you do in EVE, and how long you have been playing. Note that the figures below are purely my own creation and are for just "rich" rather that "ultra rich".

Nullsec alliance people: Titan ownership is the "rich" threshold.
Wormholers: 100bil net worth
Highsec in general: 20bil liquid
Jita: 500bil net worth

On the other hand, we can use stats from EVEBoard to make a more scientifically accurate study.
Tracking 1,862.82 billion SP and 61.83 trillion ISK in 51,440 pilots!

When we cut out people in EVE who don't really matter or are probably alts ( <10M SP) we get 37,000 pilots.

61.83T/37K = about 2bil per pilot on average. That's just liquid ISK though.



EDIT: I seem to remember there actually being a graph out there that shows average liquid ISK against SP.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=143535

Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-09-10 14:49:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
It's all relative.

If you have 5 or 10 billion liquid ISK, but all you do is hang around in a Battlecruiser with friends, buying the occasional shiny toy which ends up collecting dust in a hangar, then you are rich.

If you have 10 billions and your goal is to sit in a Nyx until it explodes...then you are poor and a long way from your goal.

All in all I found that, while never making much Isk, I never needed much either, so my meager sources of income are more than enough to pay for the ships I lose. And the ships I fancy.

As I would have no issues purchasing and losing multiple pimped T3s or Command ships or Carriers or whatever, I expect I'm pretty well off, but the truth is that the fun I extract from my gaming sessions seems to be completely unrelated to the shiny toys I decide to undock.

A humble Hurricane seems to be enough most days.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-09-10 14:50:56 UTC
I'm rich enough that I can give away nice ships to new players, usually 1 Billion worth a month. This weekend I bought a guy I just met a CNR, well just because I can... When you give a Hulk, Drake, Raven, etc people are generally thankful...
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-09-10 14:55:56 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
I'm rich enough that I can give away nice ships to new players, usually 1 Billion worth a month. This weekend I bought a guy I just met a CNR, well just because I can... When you give a Hulk, Drake, Raven, etc people are generally thankful...


Perhaps I could I interest you in some A-grade gratitude?

For the meager price of a Hulk, Drake or Raven, I could be as generally thankful as you could ever desire! Feast on the adoration eve-mails I could be sending you.

Dude, make good use of your Isk. Give away to REAL thankers. Give to Darius Brinn.

http://www.lookatcat.com/data/media/12/cat_shrek.jpg
Maxxatan
SSEO KG
#49 - 2012-09-10 14:56:32 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
I'm rich enough that I can give away nice ships to new players, usually 1 Billion worth a month. This weekend I bought a guy I just met a CNR, well just because I can... When you give a Hulk, Drake, Raven, etc people are generally thankful...


That's a pretty meaningless definition. For all we know you make 1.5 bil a month and the spare 500mil is spent on a PLEX.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=143535

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#50 - 2012-09-10 15:41:21 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work.


Sigh, another liar trying a stealth "nerf missions" ploy.
500 million a night, let's be generous and say 5 hours/ session.

Sorry, no one makes 100M / hour running missions, even including LP.
But nice try, thanks for playing.

SealteamXI
Z-Co.
#51 - 2012-09-10 15:55:57 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
John Ratcliffe wrote:
1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work.


Sigh, another liar trying a stealth "nerf missions" ploy.
500 million a night, let's be generous and say 5 hours/ session.

Sorry, no one makes 100M / hour running missions, even including LP.
But nice try, thanks for playing.



If you think that, you're doing it wrong.
bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
#52 - 2012-09-10 15:58:37 UTC
You can also look at it this way.
Of the 51438 players on Eveboard,1116 players has hit the 1bil mark. Thats only 2,17%

If you (and I know you can't do it this way so hold the bashing) put that into Eve in generel, and lets say there's 745.000 active characters in eve, that will translate into 16200 characters having over 1bill isk. Don't know it that is many or not.

Source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66491
Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-09-10 16:18:18 UTC
Here is the thing about ISK, there comes a point where you get so much that it out grows your play style. Sure you got 200bil in ISK but if your just flying around in faction / t2 fit BC's what does that count for?

Point is unless your looking in to capital ships, running a corp / alliance, or large scale industry / trade what use is that 200bil?

If your just doing pvp in T2 fit cruisers and frigs and that is fun and how you spend all your time, then having a constant 2-5bil in liquid ISK is rolling in the dough.

TL;DR Rich is relative to your game activity imo.
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-09-10 17:49:18 UTC
Anya Ohaya wrote:
I'd be a lot richer I had hadn't plexed two accounts for about a year.


Big smile Same here

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.

highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2012-09-10 17:57:30 UTC
A corpmate of mine said last night, in response to a question asked by another corpmate "Nah, I'm not gonna buy that right now. Im broke. I just bought a new dread and I'm down to 8 Bill"



I personally rarely see a bill ISK because I spend it. I dont rat my face off for hours on end with a carrier supporting a tengu, so I don't rake in Billions in bounty prizes. I know guy that do this as a sole means of income and are way way way more rich than myself.

I dont really like ratting, unless I'm in a group, probably because I have yet to train into Caldari T3 cruisers, and a Proteus isnt the best for ratting. (but for some reason, I dont mind staring at asteroids.... im weird).

I struggle to get by on about 750M at a time, My wallet usually fluctuates between 200-750M. This is because I don't stay liquid. I usually immediately invest in some sort of asset, such as ships or equipment. I purchase much more than I need, on purpose.

Some people stock pile ISK for when they need it. I stockpile ships and modules to use as I need them. I have a ton of sub caps and enough fittings to fit probably 20 more ships. If I were to liquify my assets, I would probably triple my wallet. Maybe quadruple.


Its all relative.

FC, what do?

Senshi Hawk
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#56 - 2012-09-10 18:07:30 UTC
I split the areas of gameplay into categories and then assess it that way. The numbers change from time to time and is by no means the be-all-end-all of calculations, but in looking at the majority, it's fair to say a "rich" pilot who spends 100% of his time in highsec follows a different metric than a "rich" pilot who lives in c5 wormholes.

If someone told me they earned 5bil quarterly in highsec running missions and other carebear stuff, I'd chalk that up as being rich.

But if a factional warfare grinder told me they were making 5bil quarterly, I would not be nearly as impressed.
Nyrak
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-09-10 18:15:37 UTC
On the other hand, I am so poor, homeless people give me their spare ISK. Ugh

Being a casual player due to not having much real life time to invest, to follow career paths in the game that CCP later nerfed does wonders to the pocketbook. Fortunately I am able to derive some fun factors out of being meager and scraping by and do not need the fancy stuff to play.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#58 - 2012-09-10 18:25:15 UTC
bbb2020 wrote:
You can also look at it this way.
Of the 51438 players on Eveboard,1116 players has hit the 1bil mark. Thats only 2,17%

If you (and I know you can't do it this way so hold the bashing) put that into Eve in generel, and lets say there's 745.000 active characters in eve, that will translate into 16200 characters having over 1bill isk. Don't know it that is many or not.

Source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66491



I wouldn't call eveboard all that representative - after all most people only use it when they want to sell a character and these characters wallets are typically empty. And as someone mentioned before, it leaves out isk stored in assets or currently bound in the market.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#59 - 2012-09-10 18:34:02 UTC
The problem is that while I can make literally as much isk as I want very easily, I get very lazy after I make about 30bil. As long as I can afford endless Talos's I'm good.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#60 - 2012-09-10 18:35:20 UTC
When you start wondering what to spend ISK on, then you are rich.

I was looking at the NEX store recently Oops