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Urthel Drengist
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-09-09 23:35:33 UTC
As the tile suggests i am looking for someone who knows Latin and specifically knows how to say in Latin " Heavy Industries " I am a complete noob in Latin and i have no idea if you can even say this in Latin.

Thanks in advance for any responses.


Fly Safe

Urthel Drengist

C.E.O and Founder of Drengist Intergalactic Liberal Enterprises Ltd. [L.I.D.E.L ] 
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-09-09 23:40:58 UTC
It's been ages but I think it's something like "gravis industria".
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Selinate
#3 - 2012-09-09 23:47:37 UTC
I don't think latin had a word for industries.. let me check...

....flips through latin dictionary, yes I actually do have one

Holy ****, it is industria.

FYI though, depending on how you use the word in Latin, the ending will change. Ergo, you can't just use "gravis industria" in any old context and expect it to make sense.
Urthel Drengist
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-09-09 23:55:59 UTC
Thank you both for the answer, what about gravis industrius, its a suggestion i have had from a mate a few moments ago but he isnt that sure either, does that make any more sense?

Urthel Drengist

C.E.O and Founder of Drengist Intergalactic Liberal Enterprises Ltd. [L.I.D.E.L ] 
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-09-10 00:33:45 UTC
I believe the forums have rules about only being in english? Straight

And also I'd say just go with that gravis whatever... no one in game is going to check P

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-09-10 02:30:01 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I believe the forums have rules about only being in english? Straight

And also I'd say just go with that gravis whatever... no one in game is going to check P

Oh I dunno them amarrian roleplayers love to give everything latin names.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-09-10 02:31:26 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I believe the forums have rules about only being in english? Straight

And also I'd say just go with that gravis whatever... no one in game is going to check P

Oh I dunno them amarrian roleplayers love to give everything latin names.


Yeah but they're weird... no one cares what they think P

they are probably all furries too

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kerradeph
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-09-10 04:20:01 UTC
I've always been interested in learning to speak latin just to prove all the people that say "you don't speak latin" wrong. you can, people just seem to not speak it.
Domer Pyle
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-09-10 04:24:28 UTC
there's a reason for that. it's because it's a dead language. the only point in learning latin is to gain a better understanding of the languages which descended from it.

"Imagine if the bars to your prison were all you had ever known. Then one day, someone appears and unlocks the door. If they have the power to do this, then are they really the liberator? You never remembered who it was that closed you in." - Ior Labron
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-09-10 05:59:17 UTC
Domer Pyle wrote:
there's a reason for that. it's because it's a dead language. the only point in learning latin is to gain a better understanding of the languages which descended from it.
Latin is far from a dead language, it's just that in modern times it's been mostly relegated to religious chanting.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#11 - 2012-09-10 14:04:52 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
[Latin is far from a dead language

Latin is quite dead. "Dead" has a different definition as languages are concerned.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#12 - 2012-09-10 17:11:13 UTC
Urthel Drengist wrote:
As the tile suggests i am looking for someone who knows Latin and specifically knows how to say in Latin " Heavy Industries " I am a complete noob in Latin and i have no idea if you can even say this in Latin.

Thanks in advance for any responses.


Fly Safe


It may depend upon what do you mean with "Heavy industries". Obviously the Roman didn't knew the concept so there is no original translation for it.

What I can tell you is that "gravis" is a physical property and can't be aplied to abstract concepts as abstractions don't have a mass. Blink

Now, as "Heavy industry" is the industry that transforms raw matherials and builds the machinery necessary for that task, my guess is that Roman would had conceived it as a primary industry, or Industria Prima. This is not 100% sound as in Latin "industria" was the whole business and didn't applied to the production faciliies, and also commercial enterprises didn't had a trademark nor existed the corporation as a legal figure.

The company itself would be called a "impresa", which means more or less the same as "enterprise" so a "impresa" that deals with "industria prima" would be a "impresa Industria Prima"

Put short, i would name the company "Impresa Industria Prima (your name here)" and that would mean "(your name here) which is a company that deals with heavy industry".

Just my 2 cents.

(Be noted, I don't have formal studies in Latin and couldn't decline it for my life, so it's not a good translation, just a raw one)

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Domer Pyle
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-09-10 17:51:45 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Domer Pyle wrote:
there's a reason for that. it's because it's a dead language. the only point in learning latin is to gain a better understanding of the languages which descended from it.
Latin is far from a dead language, it's just that in modern times it's been mostly relegated to religious chanting.


yes, it is. No one speaks latin as a primary language any more. no natural speakers = dead language.

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-09-10 18:14:18 UTC
Domer Pyle wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Domer Pyle wrote:
there's a reason for that. it's because it's a dead language. the only point in learning latin is to gain a better understanding of the languages which descended from it.
Latin is far from a dead language, it's just that in modern times it's been mostly relegated to religious chanting.


yes, it is. No one speaks latin as a primary language any more. no natural speakers = dead language.
At the risk of arguing semantics all I'm gonna say is I was taught latin in school, and it's a language that many people still use to chant with on a daily basis.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-09-10 18:29:37 UTC
If Edaine Numenor doesn't post here, I'd recommend messaging him. He knows his Latin.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-09-10 20:33:45 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Domer Pyle wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Domer Pyle wrote:
there's a reason for that. it's because it's a dead language. the only point in learning latin is to gain a better understanding of the languages which descended from it.
Latin is far from a dead language, it's just that in modern times it's been mostly relegated to religious chanting.


yes, it is. No one speaks latin as a primary language any more. no natural speakers = dead language.
At the risk of arguing semantics all I'm gonna say is I was taught latin in school, and it's a language that many people still use to chant with on a daily basis.


How many people sit there and speak latin to each other? As in a full conversation... dead language Straight

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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#17 - 2012-09-10 21:43:32 UTC
This one should be pretty watertight.

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The next ones are pure google translate and may be totally wrong ;)

facta per fortes manibus [FFM] , made by strong hands

fit ex aspera materias [FITEX] , made from rough materials

verba scripte in lapide , words written in stone

... I hope you find something useful.

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Selinate
#18 - 2012-09-10 21:51:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
Urthel Drengist wrote:
Thank you both for the answer, what about gravis industrius, its a suggestion i have had from a mate a few moments ago but he isnt that sure either, does that make any more sense?


No, Industria is a feminine noun, ergo industrius isn't a word.

EDIT: I take that back, Industrius is a word, but it's an adjective, ergo if you want "heavy industry" to be a noun, it wouldn't make sense. Industrius on it's own would be sort of a shortened version for "The diligent man"

EDIT 2: I take back "gravis industria" or "industria gravis" being correct also. Since you said "heavy industries", I believe it would be "industriae grave" instead.
Selinate
#19 - 2012-09-10 21:52:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:


How many people sit there and speak latin to each other? As in a full conversation... dead language Straight


I think there are people in the Vatican that still speak it... not sure on that one though...
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#20 - 2012-09-10 22:06:23 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Urthel Drengist wrote:
Thank you both for the answer, what about gravis industrius, its a suggestion i have had from a mate a few moments ago but he isnt that sure either, does that make any more sense?


No, Industria is a feminine noun, ergo industrius isn't a word.

EDIT: I take that back, Industrius is a word, but it's an adjective, ergo if you want "heavy industry" to be a noun, it wouldn't make sense. Industrius on it's own would be sort of a shortened version for "The diligent man"

EDIT 2: I take back "gravis industria" or "industria gravis" being correct also. Since you said "heavy industries", I believe it would be "industriae grave" instead.


As I said above, "industria" is an abstraction and it can't be "heavy". "Gravis" means litherally that weights much, and an abstraction does not weight at all.

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