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Ded 3 & 4 competition

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Arrakis Fremen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-09-07 03:53:56 UTC
I have just started doing Ded 3 and 4 sites and have noticed there is a lot of competition doing these sites. I have been using a Helios to scan the sites and then using either a Vexor or Mymidion to complete the site. Lately I have had more and more pilots enter the site as I'm doing it and start taking the site over. My question is what are my options when something like a Gila or a Tengu enter and start shooting the rats? Is it basically a race to the gate after killing all the rats to get to the overlord? Should I just give up and give the site away if I'm in a Vexor and a Tengu decides to take over the site? The last site I did was a 3-10 and was in the 3rd room when a Jaguar showed up. In this instance what should I do to get the goods in the final room?

Thx for any advise to get more aggressive tactics
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-09-09 10:32:42 UTC
Arrakis Fremen wrote:
I have just started doing Ded 3 and 4 sites and have noticed there is a lot of competition doing these sites. I have been using a Helios to scan the sites and then using either a Vexor or Mymidion to complete the site. Lately I have had more and more pilots enter the site as I'm doing it and start taking the site over. My question is what are my options when something like a Gila or a Tengu enter and start shooting the rats? Is it basically a race to the gate after killing all the rats to get to the overlord? Should I just give up and give the site away if I'm in a Vexor and a Tengu decides to take over the site? The last site I did was a 3-10 and was in the 3rd room when a Jaguar showed up. In this instance what should I do to get the goods in the final room?

Thx for any advise to get more aggressive tactics


Find out exactly what you need to do to unlock the gate and get the loot. Don't bother with anything else, at least until you have looted the good stuff.

A Tengu or a Gila is always going to have an edge over a Vexor. They are usually faster, and they can afford to ignore most incoming DPS. A Vexor will struggle tanking several waves in a 4/10 site.

Cross training Caldari cruiser is probably a good idea.
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#3 - 2012-09-09 12:02:52 UTC
Leave high sec and run 4/5 dead in low sec. When you see some one enter the site swap out to your pvp ship, web scram and neut them while letting rats do the dps. If it is taking to long apply your own dps.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#4 - 2012-09-09 16:40:40 UTC
If they can tank the entire site, there's not much you can do save being more efficient before hand. If they can't, warp out and back and wait for them to engage. Obviously, go straight for the objective while they're occupied. If they warp out in response; rinse/repeat. It's a very simple stalemate, but people are often too impatient to play it right.
Dennis Gregs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-09-10 00:23:30 UTC
High sec is too crowded for exploration to be really profitable, I'd start with low sec if I were you, it's relatively safe if you got a proper CovOps.