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I am just making public record of a long term investment that Vadane Deninard is planning with me.

He will be reciving 70% of my growth against his investment, with a minimum of 0% growth/month.
I do not have any current or major manufacturing setups, so growth will be determined by the difference between the starting and ending value of (sell order + wallet + escrow + estimated value of items in courier contracts)

How dividends are paid out has not been discussed yet, but will be recorded in here.

All money going in and out of his investment will be recorded in here or in a new thread that references any previous versions of this thread in the case of a thread lock.

This is a game, not a business. This is meant to be simple for me to manage and on average should return better than standard 10% going rate for bonds. The only thing that I guarantee is that the amount of isk in his investment will not reduce.

If either of us decide we don't like how something is going or change our minds for any reason, I will liquidate and pay back whatever his current invested value is.

I am not a professional auditor and numbers will be rounded during my estimations. Again, easier for me and on average better for him.

I am not going public quite yet with this idea as I am trying to figure out how to log/manage and seeing how things generally go. He solicited me based on a post I made, and I agreed to try it out with him.

If anyone else is courious about my idea in general, feel free to ask questions, but this is still an idea in the making.

He has access to my API keys and can see my assets/wallet/transactions/journal. This post is less about building public awareness and more about having public record that I accepted money from him for his sake.

My friends generally don't care and actually would rather not have their names plastered all over the forums, but he is not a "friend", so I would prefer to do things at least a bit more professionally.

I like to have my public debts made public.

edit: BTW, I do appreciate your at least half-serious sarcasm :p

I was told money was transfer via game email, but I cannot check until I get home.

edit: VD, Probably another hours or so from the time of this posting (2012.09.04 21:27 - Displayed on Web page)

VD decided to have the dividend be 100% of the interest earned, so no money will be reinvested.

You have a buddy? Now I know you're lying. cwhatididthar?

Again, the only reason I made this public was to protect my "buddy". If I was going to do public, I would have VV audit me and let potential investors have my API as well. I really don't care, I just do mostly station trading, nothing special.

I already made 5 bil net in the past 2 weeks, I'm not hurting for money. The amount of money "invested" into me is not much more than a rounding error compared to my total value. I'm doing this for fun and I still benefit from the extra money.

Your ability to troll with a lack of sarcastic humor baffles me. Get that sand out of your vagina, if you queefed, there would be a sand storm.

1. i havent even been saracastic ITT ;)
2. I have no API of you, so I cant check that
3. 30bil isnt really a lot, and no where near enough to explain why you shouldnt scam to get more isk

It is unfortunate that this threat evolves like this.

I asked Barakach to open this thread so that I would have at least a marginal protection for my investment by telling the public about it. So yes, the intent was indeed to link Barakach's reputation with his business behaviour. There is no guarantee about it and its not at all comparable to a trustee or collateral in any form - but its how we proceed with EVE investments.

@Shar'ra: I understand your scepticism but then again you have to question every form of public reporting in this forum. There is always the chance that someone "asks his friend to do something".

"How do you know? How do you know you can trust me?"
- "I dont. Thats what trust is."

I wish Barakach all the best with his trading and may I profit a lot from his success. ;)
Until further notice, our setup for dividend payouts will remain as it is. Thank you.

Best regards,

VD

I dragged this out long enough. I'm just playing Devil's advocate against myself.

shar'ra matcevsovski is just my crappy alt. I'm think I'm going to bio mass it because it's completely useless. So many fond memories of pointless arguments.

Anyway, I'm done playing, back to work.

I dare anyone to prove what I just said isn't true

I confirm.