EVE General Discussion

Seriously... Take a moment to step back and smell the roses. The life span of most serious players of an MMO is usually in years. When it comes to eve this is especially true. I can understand those who are upset because it affects them. What I can not understand is the people who complain when the change doesn't effect them or does so very little.

As a community we have come to a point where we have cried wolf to many times. This can already be seen where a bunch of goons on the CSM make decisions for us. Squelching out the opinions of the other CSM members in their own specialties. "wormholes being a prime example of this." So the next time you go to complain about something, do so with less tears and more reason. No one, not even CCP, cares to hear, wah that feature you spent a fortune on is stupid. Followed by I hate you! "but take my money for subscription time." Also the I buy plex with ISK excuse is about as hipster as not buying CD's from bands that have a record deal. While your parents pay for your apartment and file you under their taxes...

Steps to being a productive member of the forums.
1. Troll, so people will gain amusement from the misfortune of others. "at least try and use wit."
2. Give feedback that is both intelligible and helpful to the Original Posters Topic of conversation.
3. Show some respect to the people who keep the lights on. Even though you don't agree with every choice they make, they at least are not commenting on your neck beard either.
4. Wait until gold ammo is introduced before shutting down a major trade hub while trying to blow up a doodad in a game about internet spaceships.
5. Realize that a forum is a place to discuss features, ideas, and share stories. A forum is not Santa's wish list, where every red bicycle you want is a reason to nag.

TL;DR I am sorta tired of people having the same complaints about issues that are being looked at or even fixed. I feel this is on-topic to EVE in general. The only thing I have declaimed in this thread are hipsters and neck beards. So I really hope this doesn't get locked. If it does... Well thanks for reading this far anyways.

+1 spacebook like from me.

The fear is that, once it is introduced, it's too late to complain/whine/riot.

Indeed. CCP has been disturbingly stubborn about bad decisions until it indisputably costs them money to not pay attention to community complaints and criticisms.

It's worth considering just how bad things got before CCP delivered the devblog 180 from Hilmar and Zulu.

Given that CCP is funding the development of two more games and over 400 staff around the world while pulling on maybe 5 million dollars a month and let it come this far, it's obvious that they don't care what we have to say unless they can't afford to ignore the message.

Being constructive or even to come up with one's own opinion isn't as easy as howling with the wolves or as entertaining as posting nonsense.

But I agree with your post. It is never good enough, while there are tons of MMOs out there so much worse than EVE. I never got bored in EVE. It takes some creativity to get the full vibes out of this game though. Its a sandbox after all.

You only see whiners on this forum because the people that actually still like this game are probably playing it and don't bother to even look at the cry-fest that this forum has become. I just come here so now and then to be helpful for others and troll the complain threads. Gotta do something when I can't be ingame

You made me chortle...

art imitates life.

life turns to artful propaganda.

the circle is complete.

These days I honestly think it's more like:
Life imitates art.
At least life tries. Fails horribly mostly.

pretty much. The reason youll never see this game again without MTs are the what 52 monocles sold in 40 hours? Once the genie is out of the bottle, it cant be put back in.



Hilmar sed it best (an he's gotta hate these words by now):