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CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-09-09 09:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: CREAM A
Why my torpedoes fly well at 35km and when i shooting at 33 they dissapear?
rektumfreser
Kamchatka did nothing wrong
#2 - 2012-09-09 09:20:36 UTC
Because they accelerate and the target was moving..
Nihil Nobilitae
The Scarlet Storm
#3 - 2012-09-09 09:37:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nihil Nobilitae
They don't fly in a straight line, target could be moving and there's acceleration time to concider. Real range of torps is something like (Velocity * Flight time)*0.9

For instance a Dread can shoot Citadel Siege Torpedoes at a frigate orbiting him at 5km range. But they'll just keep flying after him for 5 minutes rather then actually hit him as long as his speed is higher then the speed of the torpedoes.
CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-09-09 09:39:45 UTC  |  Edited by: CREAM A
No it is because they broken. Why if target orbiting as always at 33km they dont hit this target. And if it moving away and torpedo hit it at 34km? This thing is broken about 3 years old and doesnt fixed at the moment? Is it so hard?

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Cap Recharger II
Domination Target Painter
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Rage Torpedo



Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Drones_Inactive=Vespa II,1
CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-09-09 09:47:57 UTC  |  Edited by: CREAM A
Why nobody cares abaut this(

Behold!

Range of 32 disappeared
http://clip2net.com/s/2hApR

Range of 35 hit !!
http://clip2net.com/s/2hAs5

And this is expensive t2 torps that randomly disappear in orbit range of npcs
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2012-09-09 10:23:42 UTC
Can't you read? Answered above.

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Matarella
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#7 - 2012-09-09 10:27:17 UTC
Roime wrote:
Can't you read? Answered above.


looking from a screens he is russian.
CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-09-09 10:27:53 UTC
Roime wrote:
Can't you read? Answered above.

This object in my screenshots was moving ye?
CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-09-09 10:30:06 UTC  |  Edited by: CREAM A
Matarella wrote:
Roime wrote:
Can't you read? Answered above.


looking from a screens he is russian.

Ye you watched at where i from in screens, and dont saw ranges? you isnt russian? right?
CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-09-09 10:30:54 UTC  |  Edited by: CREAM A
IS THIS OBJECT WAS MOVING? YOU CANT SEE? no its not.
Why are you silent now? Nothing to say?
Here is a video also, not by me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmI8lomQfb0
If you dont have eyes or brains plese dont post any stupid answers anymore
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-09-09 11:17:25 UTC
Rek already answered you, but I'll make it simple.

Missile has a top speed of 3,000m/s. Missile has a maximum flight time of 30 seconds. Missile accelerates at 250m/s. CCP does not see fit to inform us about missile acceleration rates, but they exist.

Time Velocity per second in flight
1 250
2 500
3 750
4 1000
5 1250
6 1500
7 1750
8 2000
9 2250
10 2500
11 2750
12 3000
13 3000
14 3000
15 3000
16 3000
17 3000
18 3000
19 3000
20 3000
21 3000
22 3000
23 3000
24 3000
25 3000
26 3000
27 3000
28 3000
29 3000
30 3000
Total Distance 73500

Simple math would say 30 seconds x 3km/s = 90,000m, but with acceleration factored in it's only 73,500m/s. Problem solved, working as intended.
CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-09-09 11:26:11 UTC  |  Edited by: CREAM A
Shereza wrote:
Rek already answered you, but I'll make it simple.

solved, working as intended.


So if my ship have ZERO speed and target have ZERO speed and im shoting from 35km it will work. AND
if my ship have ZERO speed and target have ZERO speed and im shooting from 32km it doesnt work? Because of acceleration rates right? intended? solved?
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-09-09 11:34:18 UTC
Unless you're staging a test between two players where both are holding absolutely still your scenario will never happen. in the event that it does happen it can be chalked up to synchronization issues whereby your client thinks you're in one location and the server thinks that you're in another location. This could, in theory, cause the issue you're suggesting.
CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-09-09 11:44:07 UTC  |  Edited by: CREAM A
and this is happened everytime everywhere. this is just expample in my screens that happens everywhere everytime, why you told me abaut acceleration and synchronization?
I think this is incorrect formula calculation associated with using rigs. I had that problem 3 years ago. I have this problem now with cnr and golem.
Im created this post because this bug is real! also im attached screens that you doesnt saw. And talking me that is isnt true and never will happen. Sad Also, with my setup of golem, torpedoes doesnt hit target at 24km sometimes...
They always hit target at 34-35km, and never at 33km with my fit. that is default orbit for many npcs. That why im created this post. I think this bug is serious and must be fixed someday.
Arec Bardwin
#15 - 2012-09-09 12:18:48 UTC
The reason for this happening is that the server works in 1s ticks. There was a player testing this extensively with different missiles/missile ranges and a stationary target. Can't be bothered to dig up the thread.

As far as I understood there is up to a 3 tick variance to the range of the missile.
CREAM A
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-09-09 12:23:51 UTC  |  Edited by: CREAM A
Arec Bardwin wrote:
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Thank you for good answer.
So it is big advantage to use turrets rather than torps. Sad