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The Enheduanna (Enhuadanni) was a royal familial priestess caste of the goddess Inanna (Aphrodite, Venus or Ishtar), one of the Major Anunaki, or children of the God Anu (Uranus or Caelus, i.e. the sky, father of Jupiter or Jove and Pluto among other names) and the Goddess Ki (Earth, the mother of all, again, has many names). Cognate, I believe, with three divisions of the early Jove. Elders, Statics and Modifiers with a clear gender separation and competition reflected in the mythology. The gods and goddesses were always at odds.

“Enki and Ninhursag, earlier names for Ea and Innana, were the progenators of seven pairs of gods, including Enki as god of Eridu, Enlil of Nippur, and Su'en (or Sin) of Ur, and were themselves the children of An (sky, heaven) and Ki (earth).”

My old arguments about Theosophy fit particularly well here.. The Elders were the seventh generation of the Aryan race, Terrans. They form the new race, Jovian.. The Lab Rats, of which The Other is arguably the best known example, is the seventh generation of the Jovians, the base race for the next cycle of humanity... Which bring to light an interesting quandry for Concord, are the Rogue Drones, obviously sentient, entitled to rights thereof? There is a good theme for some fan fiction..

The Enhuadanna herself was a princess and temple prostitute (not looked on negatively) who gained recognition as a great scholar and political force in her time. A time when goddesses and gods were personal and linked in a maternal and paternal fashion to tribes and peoples. She was the daughter of Sargon of Akkad, whose kingdom bears startling similarities to Anoikis and my postulated Jovian Empire. The Akkadian capitol has remained an enigma, as noone really knows where it was located.

Manipulating three castes of her society to her own advantage, the Enheduanna and her church (corporation?) shaped three nations or castes into one, the Akkadian Empire (Jovian Empire). Using religious dogma (scientific principle?) as the support mechanism. These castes were represented by their own gods, Enki (cognate with Janus), who, interestingly, shares the characteristics and roles of an Amerind deity, Tlaloc, and Enlil (cognate with Jove) along with Anu, the elder father of brother gods. Loki represents the modifiers and Thor the statics. Ahriman and Ormuzdh. Hades and Zeus. Earth God and Sky God.

Why the god analogy? Why not? The gods have always represented humanity's own frailty, pride and impulsiveness. If the grandfather rules for centuries as the sons and grandsons grow into adulthood long before the vigor fades from the grandfather, would they not be a race of gods? The Anunnaki and Igugu, the ancient progenitors of mankind? The Aesir and Vanir of Norse myth, The Gods and Titans, Ahura Mazdha and Angra Mainyu, they are all the same analogy..

The Apsu bears a striking resemblance to the Mirror and the Sleeper enclaves. Kitz.. Another nod to a sci fi great.. Which runs in line with Grious' description of early Jovian social status in relation to the Yan Jung..

From this time, in Akkadian mythology, from the Apsu, spring the seven Apkallu to give Me, culture and civilization to mankind..

Inanna was a goddess that represented love, war and magic. She is a personification of Chaos, frivolous sex and female willfulness and emotional excess. She personifies the female psyche. She is the wellspring from which all flows.

She also bears an uncanny ideological consistency with the female Jovian mindset as portrayed in the canon, and reminds me of Jamyl Sarum and the Other. What “gender” is the Other, I wonder.

I have always wondered why no Jovian female had ever been officially presented in the lore. They are a very elusive breed. And yet, it says they are the more outgoing gender amongst the Jovians.

I have also always held the notion that the Oruze Enclave at the Mirror was separated by gender, as opposed to race or nationality. As the early Jove abandoned traditional procreation for genetic engineering and strange pursuits of novel experience, the genders began to polarize. As reflected in the mythology that I think represents it.

This is not yet a definative work and I am still tying pieces together.. So changes may occur, as I try to tie up loose ends and adjust for consistancy with the lore..

When we take it a step further and look into Marduk, as Dropbear suggested, we see that he is Amar Utu, the bull calf of heaven. The bull is associated in the emblem of the Jove.. It also seems to have ties to the Amarrians...

Anzu, who stole the tablets of destiny from Enki, is associated with the Griffin, a symbol rife in Gallente culture.. Are there other parallels between the ancient and modern? Yep, lots of them.. Take the Akkadian symbols of divine rulership, the horned crown, the rod of rulership and the throne.. Harkens to a couple chrons about the Amarr, the Sef and the Achura..

The Sef show obvious ties to the Kabbalah, as do the Takhmal...

The beauty of using religion to tie the pieces together and make an interesting whole, is that religion for all mankind shares a common source.. If your Christian, Muslim, Bhuddist, Krishna, whatever, the ancient tales all spring from the same well.. They are mirror copies, branches on the same tree.. Isn't symbology amazing?

To find the cultural present we need to tie the cultural past in and see what makes sense. As many have pointed out in this forum, cultural truth is far from an exact science. We cannot lay down empirical statements based on the scientific principle, it just isn't that cut and dried. Some aspects of historical fact end up as outright lies in the ongoing search for empirical truth.

Broad strokes are the best to paint in.. As such, we can certainly find some outlines and flesh them out a bit. Even with the enigmatic Jovians. Following the course of Transhumanism, we find the cultural shock points, the things that cause conflict and drama. The obvious driving factors in fiction.

The first dramatic course we find in Transhumanism is the age old disparity between the sexes, and so the Jovians embraced Postgenderism as their course. They abandoned the ancient, traditional, social stratification norms that gender most often entails. This was likely an early development of the pre-Jovians. The Architects society.

The Architects (as the name implies) likely argued that there not only exists a perfectionist, ethical imperative for humans to strive, primarily progress on, and improvement of the human condition, but, that it is possible and desirable for humanity to enter a transhuman phase of existence, in which humans are in control of their own evolution. The canon backs this up;

"Although definitely human, the Jovians often seem to the other races as though they are not, the reason being
that they embraced genetic engineering as the way to solve any and all the problems which plague the human race. Over the thousands of years since, the Jovians have experimented with every kind of genetic modification their technology allowed. As their powers grew, they began to believe they were capable of anything, and this led them into increasingly more bizarre mutations of their bodies and minds, a policy rigorously backed up by strict governmental control."

"But one fateful moment in their history made them lose this control for a few generations, and the results were catastrophic. By this time the Jovians had begun interfering with their basic instincts, curbing their aggression and sexual instincts and cultivating strange new ones instead."

"Your mind is software. Program it. Your body is a shell. Change it.
Death is a disease. Cure it. Extinction is approaching. Fight it."

The early Jovians enforced this transhuman imperative. If you didn't agree, they made you undergo whatever enhancements they decreed needed. The specifics of that imperative are unknown, but, it could be as extreme as genderless and or hermaphroditic. Do we even know the gender or "type" of those Jovians presented in the fiction beyond modifier and static?

In the present they are entirely dependant on test tube conception. It seems to me that the Sleepers have the largest samples of their DNA. Likely why many of them seem to have sided with the Other. And why the Empires and we Capsuleers have been granted access to Anoikis.

It would also stand to reason, that a large portion of the Jovian population, past and present, might reside, in techno, in the Sleeper Enclaves..

Any of these earlier modified Jovians interacting with baseline, primitive humanity might certainly be mistaken for a God or Goddess, even outlandish tales of bird headed gods and eight armed goddesses might arise.

I apologize for getting ahead of myself, offering a coherent argument of this scale is a little beyond my experience.

Back to the original premise, the Enhuadanni and Jove seem to represent a stark contrast in ideologies that seperated the Architects society. All the techno and pseudo religious trappings aside, the Enhuadanni represented a faction that had abandoned spirituality. A humanism so profound, it offered itself up to godhood in the guise of the Sleepers. The virtuality as Heaven. If one was a passionate enough proponent, one might even "ascend" into godhood oneself.

The Jove represent the stubborn clinging to faith of humanity, a humanity that has "come close to touching the face of perfection" and fallen short. One that knows ultimate truth to be a lie. One that keeps hoping that the sum of all things can never be expressed in a simple equation. If we look back at the original factions of the Jove we can see this idelogical crux that seperated the early Jovians. We can see who likely sided with the Sleepers, and those who sided with Humanity. Not so simple as I first thought, as Modifiers and Statics both have their ideological seperations, as well. Perhaps we got the etymology wrong here, too. Maybe, we should be saying Jehovians...

The tales of the Stasis People of their society points very clearly to the widespread implementation of the virtuality at the fall of the first Jovian Empire, something brought about by the Jovian Elders, or if Templar One is an accurate representation, the Architects.

Thinking on the hints I have gleaned from all the Templar One spoilers, I begin to wonder if we are not misinterpreting the nature of Terran technology in the Sleeper Database. Terran could also be understood as Terrestrial, or planet bound. If the Architects were a spacebound society......? Who would have had best access to the Terrestrial ruins of widely diverse colonies after the closure of Eve?

In a like fashion, turning once again to Theosophy for confirmation, we look to the theoretical third round of the incarnation of humanity, the Atlantean Epoch, for our understanding of the Talocan, if they were the original settlers to Anoikis, if the other hints are deciphered properly. The Third Sun, Third Galaxy, Third Round...

After all, race is a definite part of the game, and it is from the stone age that we were begot;

"Come, tell me why it is that the Celts and the Germans are fierce, while the Hellenes and Romans are, generally speaking, inclined to political life and humane, though at the same time unyielding and warlike? Why the Egyptians are more intelligent and more given to crafts, and the Syrians unwarlike and effeminate, but at the same time intelligent, hot-tempered, vain and quick to learn? For if there is anyone who does not discern a reason for these differences among the nations, but rather declaims that all this so befell spontaneously, how, I ask, can he still believe that the universe is administered by a providence?" - Julian the Apostate

"During a long period of time when Atlantis(the Atlantean Epoch) was ruled by the Toltecs (the ancestors of the Amerindians[Talocan]), the civilization of Atlantis was at its height." Who designeed the pyramids? The first human architects? How symbolic? How predictible? How human? How Eve.

Afterfact; The Jove are the 5th Root Race of the Atlantean Race two generations removed from the Talocan, the Aryan Root race, of which "Blavatsky described the fifth root race with the following words: "The Aryan races, for instance, now varying from dark brown, almost black, red-brown-yellow, down to the whitest creamy colour, are yet all of one and the same stock - the Fifth Root-Race - and spring from one single progenitor, which Hindus call Manu.

It is believed by Theosophists that the root races evolve from the subraces of the same number; thus the Sixth Epoch will evolve from the sixth sub-race of the fifth or Aryan root race, just as the Fifth Epoch or Aryan root race evolved from the fifth subrace (the Semitic) of the fourth or Atlantean root race Theosophists believe that each root race has a separate and distinct progenitor. (Genetic Blueprint?)

"the 6th Epoch, the Australo-American subrace is presently in the process of arising from the Anglo-American, Anglo-Canadian, Anglo-Australian and presumably also the Anglo-New Zealander ethnic groups). The sixth or Australo-American sub-race will "possess certain psychic powers, and for this the pituitary body will be developed, thus giving an additional sense, that of cognising astral emotions in the ordinary waking consciousness. We may say that in general the sixth Epoch will bring in wisdom and intuition, blending all that is best in the intelligence of the fifth subrace and the emotion of the fourth." i.e. theoretically, The Minmatar..

This explains some of the concern the Enhuadanni and the Jove expressed over the genocide perpetrated upon the Starkmanir, who are the seventh, and final race to evolve and transform human perception in the seven rounds of the Atlantean Epoch of evolution. It is from them that mankind will rise to his greatest spiritual enlightenment before the New Epoch, when we return to the Cosmic Egg..

So, if the Jovian Modifiers and the Jovian Statics are warring, what are they warring over? Why, Ideology, of course...

To figure that out, we have to go way back to the beginning and find those hints, that are hidden everywhere in plain sight.

Such as Cartesian Dualism, geometric design, and a host of others... Boiled down to the lowest common denominator, it is Monism vs. Dualism vs. Pluralism...

"In metaphysics, pluralism is a doctrine that many basic substances make up reality, while monism holds existence to be a single substance, often either matter (materialism) or mind (idealism), and dualism believes two substances, such as matter and mind, to be necessary."

“what was many now becomes one when one becomes four” 514 Science - Plato - Classic Elements - Arcane Physics or MetaPhysics, which leads finally to the Philosophy of Science... concerned with "whether scientific results are actually a study of truth." [1]

But, wait, you say, that is three factions, you only show two.. Yes, that is true.. However, many of the hints suggest three factions, not two.. Or is it four? Maybe even five..

From the Ni Kunni page; The nomadic peoples of the deserts and steppes practiced a polytheistic religion that revered three primary gods and many smaller ones. The main trinity were gods of the sun, of the desert, and of the water. The sun god was portrayed as a cruel tyrant that scorched all those who did not offer obedience, opposed by the life giving water god who strove to protect his followers and deliver to them a bounty of life. The desert god was neutral in the conflict, serving as a balance between the two; often suffering under the sun god's rays, but also refusing to give up too much of his domain to the water.

As do many of the mythologies presented show a Trinity.

And one of the hints dropped from Templar One suggests the The Sleepers and the Enhuadanni may not have represented a unified ideology that was "against" the Jovians (for lack of a better pseudonym). The Enhuadanni appear to have utilized their unique position to seperate the Sleepers and the common Jove..

Unfortunately for the Empirical Scientists out there, we may never find more of EvE's empirical truth than this. While, for Armchair Philosopher's like myself, the search goes on..

Cheers again Roga, I wouldn't be able to follow that up. Although, its the first time I've read Forsaken Ruins. That's yet more profit.


One of the intriguing tangents I found in it: The stargates around the Empires, and part of "The Immensea" network, were originally formed by the Minmatar, with the linking of wormholes required for stargates to be funcitonal. I would have thought the main reason to ring all of empire space would have been with an interfering party, instead of returning-to-power Minmatar Caravans.

Also, What a Nice place for some of the greats to go Stark raving mad:

Zaragram II - City of God - Shastal System - Devoid.
Sansha Kuvakei - Stain Region (near Pool of Radiance)
Sebastien Moreau - E8-YS9 - Immensea Region (probably his corpse in the Forsaken Ruins Saga, guessing the Jove needed that Phenotype for some "other" genetic modification)

Will have to go digging around the Chronicles again looking for more mad people within a couple of constellation changes of Curse.

Also interesting to note, is that it was the Ammatar Wayfarers (Nefantar Wanderers) who originally mapped the region, along with the Amarr, who managed to one up the Ammatar by going a bit further..

The Jovians were interested in one characteristic that Moreau possessed above all others, his charisma..

So, if someone used the Seylinn Event to destroy this gate network, who was it? My money is on Concord as it stands, the Thukkers seem to have retaliated, and shown that the effort was wasted...

To expand a bit on this hypothesis, obviously there are more than ten stargates in this network, but what if only ten were positioned between the star and planet one of the systems? Or, they were all terrestrial planets that were destroyed, perhaps the fluid router systems that controlled the gate system were located on these planets? Were any of the planets controlled by anyone other than the Gallente or Minmatar or outter rim factions? I don't have enough data at my disposal to assertain.

I tried to get a map of the Seylinn event from here located at 35 seconds. Not enough of a video guru to pull it off though. It clearly shows a ring of systems located at the edge of Empire space. Is one of them, perhaps, E8-YS9? Have to go check Rhavas' blog and find out.. Nope, just Z8-81T in Immensea.. But, it does seem to support the fact that Seylinn was the only Empire planet affected..

More bits in the puzzle that point to the continuation of a Jovian proxy war are the fact that Tibus Heth arose to power after being diagnosed with a terminal genetic illness that should have taken his life by now. The Sanmatar is another figure who seems to have risen from the dead. Jamyl Sarum was executed after losing a duel (fought by proxy) for the Amarr throne. And turned up on a station log, in a clone bay, that was subsequently destroyed. One that SEEMS to have held the bodies of RECOGNIZABLE figures to any common Amarrian. The Amarrian in the story reacted in an extreme manner to seeing mere Amarrian civilians killed. She is after all, a podder. We are used to seeing death.

A clone reserve for Amarrian royalty? An argument against these figures being killed by Moreau and his cronies is the fact that Jamyl Sarum didn't have her throat sliced along with the rest. Coup D'etat?

I'd be more inclined to thinking that the Seyllin Event would only need to disrupt the wormholes linking the stargates.



I've not memorised the WH works, but if there was found to be 10 or 20 different groupings of WH networks (Specific constellations available only) then it would lend credence towards the Seyllin Event flipping adjoining wormholes. You'd end up with 10 sections of the ring disabled and the potential to isolate the wormholes in fractured or folded space, where they could hypothetically join W-Space to K-Space

To create this Utopia, mankind must have faced his inner demons, and turned his reflection inward. Much as we see on the IGS lately..

The problem with Utopia is centered in it's very premise. How can the individual willingly and happily reconcile his own goodness against the good of the whole in a manner that is acceptable to all the individuals that make up the whole?

"In order to be an immaculate member of a flock of sheep, one must above all be a sheep oneself." -Albert Einstein

We are not sheep, to be sure. We're not even a very good flock.. Nor were the Jove. The early Jove operated first and foremost on the scientific principle. They dismissed god as indefinable errata..They redefined truth to only mean what they could recreate in a labratory environment. And with philisophical waxxings on societal perfection comes the ideologist. And he has charisma and rhetorical charm. Maybe it has been maximised through genetic enhancement. A Messiah, if you will..

Well, maybe several Messiahs. Any way, an Ideology arises. No current societal ideology is based on deep introspection upon the scientific principle, except one. Survival of the Fittest. The very drive to exist is the engine for this dynamic. And in the greater scheme, the drive of the individual to survive trumps that of any society.

So this Ideology of the Architects takes root in the New Eden cluster and convinces a large portion of it's population of individuals, that it is a scientifically sound ideology. It promotes human unity through the abdication of worldly desires. The problem is, all these desires stem from the same source, our will to exist and experience. Only life begets life, only spirit begets spirit.

The Jove began to genetically remove these spirits we foster. The very core structure of what makes us. Because there was no higher authority to which they subscribed, not even their own consciences. They removed them along the way.

Finally, the Architects achieved their goal, a mastering and restructuring of the human condition to it's idea of perfection, a Claiming, if you will. Only problem, the Jovian Disease, whether intentional or not, the Architects stripped humanity of it's reasons for living. The joys along with the heartaches and lessons. Who needs to learn, anyway, when you know everything there is to know. What use in living? Besides, with cloning tech and the possibility that you might enter The Construct, even death was an outdated truth.

I can definately see the reasoning behind the belief in Aten in Egypt, I'm wondering if you mean that once the source of development was established there was no further way to advance.

A learning curve , much like an acceleration curve has its plateau where development / advancement is hindered, normally towards the high end but in S-Curvature oftentimes also at midpoints.

If the Architects took the Construct as far as their original specimens would allow, they would also need something to change drastically in order to open a new area of acceleration or, literally, learning. Imagine, that all that is conceivable is conceived within 20 years, and everything that science fiction and science fact lead towards has already been achieved in 20 years. Any culture would need a new impetus or stimulus to carry out advancement and iteration.


In this sense the usage of Aten means a lot to my considerations of the Sleepers and their cruel overlords. It also, to me, explains why the current ruling majority within their society (Enheduanni) are choosing to manipulate the empires in a given direction, much like scientists choose to nurture a sample of bacteria. Although, I've always struggled within EVE to differentiate whether the Sleepers are "patiently waiting" or if they were locked in position as the pinnacle of their specimen range of deviation.


In respect of this I left my views open, and gradually more information was incorporated into lore to say that each element of their heirachy was enacting steps towards a goal.

When news of the W-Space systems came through and sleeper structures were subsequently observed to be in areas that contained cosmic irregularities; blackholes, pulsars etc, I figured that it was to enable the understanding of new equations that the Sleeper "Aten" could no longer provide orbiting static "habitable" solar bodies / stars.

They needed a kick, a buzz, a dynamic, something new to motivate additional research / assist their pursuit of knowledge.

That also opens up the possibilities that the current state of affairs is, as ascribed by more than one party still within EVE, a requirement for a fulcrum/nexus so that two "book of all knowledge" can exist simultaneously. Gleaning the truth of it, still need more enactment, imo.

All of which, I happily admit, may be way off the mark. Hell, who does the scientist in extinction burst represent? An Architect? A Dev? God? Maybe it is even an exagerrated interpretation of Hilmar...

But, it seems to me to represent the Architects plan for the Jove, when it is that last spasm of life that clings to existence against all odds that is the extinction burst. Anoikis being the only viable methodology they found. Stripping away the Jovians will to live.

Which, I might add doesn't seem to have been entirely successful or peacefully achieved, note the areas and structures that suggest conflict within WH space...

Also note the evidence of "escaped" Jovian entities such as The Other, and this..

Who do you turn a "Jovian" renegade over to? Jovians, of course..

The Other's primary motivation seems to be the militarization of the cluster along with the destruction of the Sleepers. The Other is arguably the national will and desire of the Jovian peoples who were assimilated into The Construct.

I have always wondered at the old standings and why they were the way they were. Before they were hidden away from the capsuleer community. Why so much dislike for the Amarr and Gallente? It makes alot more sense, now..

Concord has it's prescriptions against the development of "sentient" AI's, because, many of the Jovians are sentient AI's. Development along the lines of Creodron are offensive to the Jovians, they are looking to make more efficient slaves. Slaves of technological evolution instead of biological evolution. The Jove have seen and embraced both sides of that coin..