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Why Mining Doesn't Matter

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Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#21 - 2012-09-07 09:57:30 UTC
Sab Sab Five wrote:
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Quote:
go out blow stuff and get blown


You guys seriously need to stop doing that on the forums, its the second time this week. People at work thing Im the crazy guy that laughs at his screen at work all the bloody time... the word your looking for is UP.... blown ... UP.



I don't know what drug syou take or what you drink but seems it's quite strong if you start laughing alone for something you're the only one to understand.

Seems puberty doesn't help neither. Roll


I would sell a testicle to be young and going through puberty again!



They say when you get a full on sex change, the hormones you take to induce changes within the body give you a second puberty.


And they say google is a good thing... put it down man, some stuff its best to simply not know.

The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub. 

Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
#22 - 2012-09-07 10:26:19 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
I make isk while AFK. I spend 5-10 minutes deciding what I should do with buy/sell orders at the time and occasionally get in .1 wars, but 99% of the things I sell I'm not even paying attention to, and I don't even have to jetcan every 30 minutes or whatever.


Good point; I don't think it is the same though...don't have a reason why right now, but it just doesn't feel the same...

Placing a buy/sell order and letting other players have access to it. The act of placing the order can't be done AFK though.

vs

Sitting in space and letting a long cycle interact with an asteroid (are Ice fields still asteroids?); here the act of mining can be done AFK.

Hmmm...not sure if that even sounds right...

Don't know if I have an answer to that...good point...

Edit: figured it out...AFK Mining the cycle will repeat automatically, meaning they can sit at a large roid and just let it cycle until they fill up their hold. Here the act of mining is being done AFK.


If they sit with an indy with a single mining laser ... don't worry the "AFK" profit is negligible, if they sit in a barge, well an un-boosted miner will chew through a roid in in 9-15 min(3-5 cyles) that is afk enough to take an unhurried crap.

I wonder if nullers when they spend 4 hours fleeting up how many actually sit at keyboard ....


I am worried that the "AFK" label is turning into a witch hunt .....bots\afkers\pve-ers\
Is the pew pew boys so lacking imagination to create content for themselves that the only thing left is to pick on the introvert kids in the yard.
Hypercake Mix
#23 - 2012-09-07 11:05:51 UTC
Mining became relevant when rogue drones stopped poo-ing.
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-09-07 11:27:44 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink


Hey! I hear they fly spaceships too. Will the striking similarities never end? Roll
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#25 - 2012-09-07 11:42:26 UTC
I too think mining doesn't matter for you guys.

/c

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Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-09-07 14:55:17 UTC
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
Everyone is so butthurt over the new mining barge buffs, but I don't understand why. Encouraging mining by making it easier and safer will only have more people generating minerals which will overall make the price of everything go down. So theoretically if e have 3 in 10 miners getting ganked before the change (theoretical numbers) and after the change we have 1 in 10 miners being succesfully ganked, we get 2 more loads of minerals than before the patch. More minerals=minerals become cheaper=it becomes cheaper to make ships and mods=pewing is now cheaper.
An anyway, if they afk mine all day why do we care if they have a money faucet? It's not a mining carebear would DO anything with said isk.

TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

*hateshield up*


That would be nice if anyone was fighting. Null sec needs people to actually have some nice big wars then maybe they would appreciate the cheaper ships...but since everyone is just blue with each other...not gonna happen. So they all just spend their time in high sec worrying about how to mess with miners.
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-09-07 16:34:13 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink

I afk mine ice while I play my pvp toon. I will continue to do so untill it is deemed by ccp to be against the url. Nothing you can do to stop me. Have a nice day.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#28 - 2012-09-07 16:40:19 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I too think mining doesn't matter for you guys.

/c

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-09-07 16:54:27 UTC
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink

I afk mine ice while I play my pvp toon. I will continue to do so untill it is deemed by ccp to be against the url. Nothing you can do to stop me. Have a nice day.

man what a badass
Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-09-07 18:28:48 UTC
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink

I afk mine ice while I play my pvp toon. I will continue to do so untill it is deemed by ccp to be against the url. Nothing you can do to stop me. Have a nice day.


Against the URL? Not sure how mining has anything to do with a Uniform Resource Locator...but ok.
Toroup
Prometheus Deep Core Mining and Salvage
#31 - 2012-09-07 18:30:39 UTC
The only people who are really upset at the mining barge changes are the gankers because A) they lost their e-stroke material and B) they lost their isk faucet meaning that they now have to go do something that takes effort to make isk.

Actually, the mining barge changes have had a negative impact for those of us who did ATK mining. The market has fallen apart (especially for ice) so it is much less profitable for those of us who don't bot. I never lost a ship to gankers because I paid attention so really, the barge buffs didn't affect my survival rates but has affected my profit levels quite a bit (so much so that I've gone back to running level 4s).

I actually enjoy mining (sick I know) but there's just not a ton of isk in it right now for those of us who don't AFK/Bot.
Toroup
Prometheus Deep Core Mining and Salvage
#32 - 2012-09-07 18:32:03 UTC
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink

I afk mine ice while I play my pvp toon. I will continue to do so untill it is deemed by ccp to be against the url. Nothing you can do to stop me. Have a nice day.


Against the url huh? Are you really an idiot or just, well, an idiot.
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-09-07 20:43:16 UTC
Tyrton wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
I make isk while AFK. I spend 5-10 minutes deciding what I should do with buy/sell orders at the time and occasionally get in .1 wars, but 99% of the things I sell I'm not even paying attention to, and I don't even have to jetcan every 30 minutes or whatever.


Good point; I don't think it is the same though...don't have a reason why right now, but it just doesn't feel the same...

Placing a buy/sell order and letting other players have access to it. The act of placing the order can't be done AFK though.

vs

Sitting in space and letting a long cycle interact with an asteroid (are Ice fields still asteroids?); here the act of mining can be done AFK.

Hmmm...not sure if that even sounds right...

Don't know if I have an answer to that...good point...

Edit: figured it out...AFK Mining the cycle will repeat automatically, meaning they can sit at a large roid and just let it cycle until they fill up their hold. Here the act of mining is being done AFK.


If they sit with an indy with a single mining laser ... don't worry the "AFK" profit is negligible, if they sit in a barge, well an un-boosted miner will chew through a roid in in 9-15 min(3-5 cyles) that is afk enough to take an unhurried crap.

I wonder if nullers when they spend 4 hours fleeting up how many actually sit at keyboard ....


I am worried that the "AFK" label is turning into a witch hunt .....bots\afkers\pve-ers\
Is the pew pew boys so lacking imagination to create content for themselves that the only thing left is to pick on the introvert kids in the yard.


I don't know about the nullsec folks, but when we fleet up, if we are AFK, we are in station or guarded by our corp mates. The issue is not with just being AFK; you want to sit in space and not be watching, that is your choice. However, when you gain competitive advantage through not playing (AFK ISK generation, for an activity that is intended to be "played"), that is wrong IMO.

James315 for CSM 8!

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#34 - 2012-09-07 21:02:08 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink



Gankers are pissed off because the easy mode is off & now they have to coodinate with each other ifthey want to do cheap ganks with catalysts it'll now 2-3 of them instead of a single solo ganking. So no more solo ganks unless they spend real ISK on BCs
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#35 - 2012-09-07 21:11:22 UTC
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink

I afk mine ice while I play my pvp toon. I will continue to do so untill it is deemed by ccp to be against the url. Nothing you can do to stop me. Have a nice day.


You can still be ganked pretty cheaply by 2-3 catalysts I expect the gankers to now have to do more planning & 2-3 months in the future we'll be seeing lots of AFK ice mining MACs go poof then peeps will switch to retrievers whose losses area lot cheaper since they are 10+ times cheaper.
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-09-07 21:51:36 UTC
if everyone in eve stopped mining it would only take a few weeks before battleships were 500mil+.
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-09-07 22:59:57 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink

I afk mine ice while I play my pvp toon. I will continue to do so untill it is deemed by ccp to be against the url. Nothing you can do to stop me. Have a nice day.

man what a badass

Not badass just truth. He can do nothing to stop me from afk mining. If he ganks and gets concorded I will be right back with another ship.
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-09-07 23:02:53 UTC
Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink

I afk mine ice while I play my pvp toon. I will continue to do so untill it is deemed by ccp to be against the url. Nothing you can do to stop me. Have a nice day.


Against the URL? Not sure how mining has anything to do with a Uniform Resource Locator...but ok.

Oh my deepest apologies, some of the other MMO's I play reffer to it as url....here I should have used Eula.... I hope EVE doesnt break because I used a different term.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-09-07 23:03:38 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
I make isk while AFK. I spend 5-10 minutes deciding what I should do with buy/sell orders at the time and occasionally get in .1 wars, but 99% of the things I sell I'm not even paying attention to, and I don't even have to jetcan every 30 minutes or whatever.


Good point; I don't think it is the same though...don't have a reason why right now, but it just doesn't feel the same...

Placing a buy/sell order and letting other players have access to it. The act of placing the order can't be done AFK though.

vs

Sitting in space and letting a long cycle interact with an asteroid (are Ice fields still asteroids?); here the act of mining can be done AFK.

Hmmm...not sure if that even sounds right...

Don't know if I have an answer to that...good point...

Edit: figured it out...AFK Mining the cycle will repeat automatically, meaning they can sit at a large roid and just let it cycle until they fill up their hold. Here the act of mining is being done AFK.


the afk point is where you fall asleep when mining. Happens to offen for me..... :(
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-09-07 23:06:06 UTC
Toroup wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Pasta OfDoom wrote:
TL;DR = More miners make pewing cheaper.

Hey! Same justification the botters use. Very nice to see miners reduced to that. Blink

I afk mine ice while I play my pvp toon. I will continue to do so untill it is deemed by ccp to be against the url. Nothing you can do to stop me. Have a nice day.


Against the url huh? Are you really an idiot or just, well, an idiot.


Since I am even bothering to answer your Juvenile reply. Yes...yes I am.
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