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ORE mining cruiser and battleship - mining op defense
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Reaver Glitterstim
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Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-09-05 09:13:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
The current mining cruisers--the osprey and scythe, and arguably the vexor and arbitrator--are virtually useless for mining. It doesn't take much longer to be able to fly a mining barge, and right from the get-go barges have a substantially higher mining output along with a nice big ore bay. So here's an idea for mining-style combat hulls that could have a purpose:

ORE Mining Cruiser and Battleship
These ships would have 3 and 4 turret hardpoints for fitting mining lasers, but would also have 3 and 4 launcher hardpoints and enough powergrid and CPU to use them. Rather than have a really high native CPU, these ships should probably have a reduction in the CPU cost of fitting mining lasers, just to prevent abusing them for other purposes.

With a tiny cargohold not suitable for mining, these ships would be capable of mining directly into a jettison can instead. Their meager mining output would still make them less than useful to the solo miner, but their use would come in handy for mining ops in lawless space. They wouldn't be as useful in combat as an actual combat ship, but with their launchers and drones they wouldn't be far behind. It can be hard to get people to defend your mining op because people don't want to just sit there doing nothing in a combat ship, waiting for something to happen. But with these ships, your defense force can help you mine! Or you can have the whole fleet in these ships and just defend the Orca which you have hauling the ore for everyone.

What do you think?

Stats for those of you who like perusing such data:
These stats are just to give you a better idea what I'm going for. They are in no way a final draft.
ORE Cruiser
* 6 high slots - 3 turret hardpoints, 3 launcher hardpoints
* 3 mid slots
* 5 low slots
390TF CPU, 450MW powergrid
ORE Cruiser skill bonus: 20% bonus to mining laser yield and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield per skill level
Role bonus: 50% reduction in CPU need of mining lasers

Cargo capacity: 450m3
Drone capacity: 65m3
Drone bandwidth: 40Mbit/sec


ORE Battleship
* 8 high slots - 4 turret hardpoints, 4 launcher hardpoints
* 4 mid slots
* 7 low slots
535TF CPU, 5500MW powergrid
ORE Battleship skill bonus: 20% bonus to mining laser yield and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield per skill level
Role bonus: 50% reduction in CPU need of mining lasers

Cargo capacity: 600m3
Drone capacity: 125m3
Drone bandwidth: 100Mbit/sec

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Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-09-05 09:17:25 UTC
Get out
FireT
Venom Pointe Industries
#3 - 2012-09-05 14:23:25 UTC
You created a solution from a parallel universe. Mining is essentially passive. If you are afraid have friends near you.
Severian Carnifex
#4 - 2012-09-05 15:11:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Severian Carnifex
all i am asking... if CCP is removing mining cruisers... why the hell they dont make ORE cruiser that will be used instead of it???
Why is CCP killing diversity for new players?
i think that 20mill price point for mining barge is a "little" too much for new players.
Give them ship between frigate and barge!
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-09-05 15:21:15 UTC
Learn to read the dev blogs, they are making a mining frigate in winter, cheaper less skill points than a barge, they are removing racial mining frigates and cruisers for a reason.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#6 - 2012-09-05 15:59:40 UTC
CCP has stated that barges will be akin to cruisers and BSs for ORE. That said, I would like to see ORE cruisers and BSs. It makes no sense to take defenseless ships out to lowsec. Granted the Skiff can tank long enough to survive a light attack, but that is it. It can't do much to fight back other than a flight of medium drones.

That said, take out the missiles. That is too much offense. Also, up the mining bonus and lower the lasers and high slots. The ship should mine like an Apoc but not shoot like one.

Btw, a mining BS is nothing new.
It's just a better mining Dominix.
It's been in the game since before ORE existed.