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Torp Naga

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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#21 - 2012-09-03 11:39:55 UTC
Selaya Ataru wrote:
Fon Revedhort wrote:
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
*Waves hand in a slow motion*

These are not the Torpedo Nagas you are looking forP

The problem with missiles doesn't change that the intended role for current Tier3 battlecruiser is incompatible with torpedoes, so Torpedo Naga isn't going to happen, sowwy!

Any chance you admitting the reason Torpedo (actually, missile) Naga fails is the fact cruise missiles are also lacking? That is: lacking DPS in the first place.


Any chance that you get the point that missile based ships are just bad for sniping and the Naga is in fact a sniper ship?



That has nothing to do with my point. Of course it's bad at mssile sniping, given how it's a hybrid ship and how poor cruise missiles are Roll. The point is how they absolutely had to make it hybrid-based.

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Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-09-03 11:51:06 UTC
Fon Revedhort wrote:
Colonel Xaven wrote:
Fon Revedhort wrote:
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
*Waves hand in a slow motion*

These are not the Torpedo Nagas you are looking forP

The problem with missiles doesn't change that the intended role for current Tier3 battlecruiser is incompatible with torpedoes, so Torpedo Naga isn't going to happen, sowwy!

Any chance you admitting the reason Torpedo (actually, missile) Naga fails is the fact cruise missiles are also lacking?


No, re-read.

Post with your main, the one with blue badge.


Wouldn't make any difference content-wise.

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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#23 - 2012-09-03 14:26:47 UTC
Current Naga:

Is: Excellent with rails or blasters
Is Not: The same niche as the Talos.

Torp Naga was laughable even if torps did hit things moving faster than continental drift.

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RangerGord
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#24 - 2012-09-04 02:33:51 UTC
So as an excerpt from his post that he linked:

"We could have given it Stealth Bomber-like Torpedo explosion velocity, velocity and flight time bonuses but it was conflicting with an already existing ship class while not delivering not much new value itself. "

So instead it conflicts with another ship that was released at the same time as it was, pretty slick. Also, not sure how they are saying that torps/cruise were bad because they couldn't hit small fast things... so exactly how good are large blaster/rail turrets for hitting small fast things? If you didn't want to give it Stealth Bomber-like bonuses, then don't, give it some other missile bonus. That would make it as different from the Stealth Bombers as its current hybrid differences/similarities to the Talos now.

And if they are concerned with not having a sniping ship, I've seen the Oracle and Nado fill in that role pretty nicely without the need to make a 2nd of 4 new ships also have projectile/lasers because one is snipe and one is close.

So lets step through this:

4 new ships are released.
There's a couple that can snipe (Oracle/Nado).
There's a blaster brawler on the same level as a Vindi (Talos)
There's a projectile, a laser, and a hybrid (3 of the 4 gun types)

So it seems like there is still a gap, that could be filled by the 4th ship (Naga)

There was no missiles and currently no ship in the game that can do 8 launchers either. You can't say its not for killing battleships because its paper thin and can't handle small fast things, well same goes for the rest.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#25 - 2012-09-04 02:41:14 UTC
OP, dont f@ck with my Drake killer.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

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Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#26 - 2012-09-04 02:45:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalel Nimrott
Selaya Ataru wrote:
Fon Revedhort wrote:
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
*Waves hand in a slow motion*

These are not the Torpedo Nagas you are looking forP

The problem with missiles doesn't change that the intended role for current Tier3 battlecruiser is incompatible with torpedoes, so Torpedo Naga isn't going to happen, sowwy!

Any chance you admitting the reason Torpedo (actually, missile) Naga fails is the fact cruise missiles are also lacking? That is: lacking DPS in the first place.


Any chance that you get the point that missile based ships are just bad for sniping and the Naga is in fact a sniper ship?




Did you tryed with blasters?

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#27 - 2012-09-04 06:36:43 UTC
Kitt JT wrote:
Actually, the naga had missile hardpoints when it hit sisi.

After a little testing, it was found to be hugely OP.

This is coming from someone with battlecrusiers 5 and 10msp in missiles. I would love if it had torps. but it was OP.

There is currently no ship with 8 launcher hardpoints.


It was cool on SiSi because missiles would come out of the middle. It was the only ship the old missile effects looked good on.

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