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From the outside looking in (are online numbers dropping?)
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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-09-04 01:19:44 UTC
I just got done training marauders even though I have no reason to every fly or buy one. This is the next truly stupidly long skill that I am training just because I have nothing else to do in the game. TBH I never thought I would bother getting the prerequisites for these ships.



Without this turning into a classic EVE is dieing thread, I would like to ask if subscriptions have been down. Each time I log in I am seeing people online in the lower 30's and as of this moment only 28K. When I was active about a year ago I seem to recall allot higher numbers on tranquility.


Alternatively...

I am noticing allot more people online everyday on singularity. The old cap seemed to be around 200, two days ago there was 2,000. I don't know, nor do I care whether or not there was a mass test this weekend. But at this exact moment singularity is registering 2031 online. This seems like a big change to me. Can anyone confirm of deny this?





It is like not seeing a relative for several years, then one Christmas you realize they gained a whole bunch of weight and their hair turned grey. That many on singularity and that few on tranquility seems a little odd to me, and it may suggest that overall interest in EVE online as a whole is waning. I know that it is for me.


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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-09-04 01:24:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
The defacto response I've seen to this question has to do with it being summer and EVE's population is always lower in the summer and increases in the winter.

Also if you're training marauders and you can afford them you might wanna check out the Golem and the Kronos which I hear are both very good at what they do, also the Vargur saw a lot of use in the last alliance tournament so those seem to be popular at the moment with the people who can fly those kinda ships.

Oh and as far as this turning into another EVE is dieing thread I hope not, we already have one of those here.
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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-09-04 01:29:55 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
The defacto response I've seen to this question has to do with it being summer and EVE's population is always lower in the summer and increases in the winter.



I guess I can post again in winter if it still seems low. It will probably take me that long to log in again. But at least 2,000 people are enjoying the freeplay of sisi in place of the actual game on tranquility.

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Rengerel en Distel
#4 - 2012-09-04 01:32:20 UTC
Hmm, 1am, wonder why the numbers are down? Hmm, US schools for the most part start today (not sure about euros).

As for sisi, could it be that now that Dust is on sisi, you're seeing the increased numbers based on that?

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#5 - 2012-09-04 01:37:40 UTC
Sisi is high because the dust players are on it too. The online count is the total of eve and dust players.

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Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
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#6 - 2012-09-04 01:38:33 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Without this turning into a classic EVE is dieing thread, I would like to ask if subscriptions have been down. Each time I log in I am seeing people online in the lower 30's and as of this moment only 28K. When I was active about a year ago I seem to recall allot higher numbers on tranquility.

The bot population is certainly up, can't speak to the human population. What?

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Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-09-04 01:40:10 UTC
Online numbers drop about this time as US Kids and possible other parts of the world go back to school.

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Aziesta
Binal Extensions
Xagenic Freymvork
#8 - 2012-09-04 01:50:52 UTC
Tranquility population graphs.
It does appear that there's a dip every year around August-October. Probably students heading back to school and having to rearrange their schedules. However you do seem to be possibly correct that this year wasn't quite as active as last year. It's not "EVE is dieing" levels, but it's the first year there wasn't a marked increase.
Agent Akari
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#9 - 2012-09-04 01:57:24 UTC
Also this year some new hyped mmo's have come out, that could have made this year a little less activity.
But we will see..
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#10 - 2012-09-04 02:04:25 UTC
Guildwars 2 was just released. It's absolutely typical that a major MMO release will temporarily draw players away from Eve.

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C O'Brien
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-09-04 02:13:30 UTC
I've been seeing around 20k logged on when I do, a significant drop from when I used to play in '07 the numbers were nearly 50k. 60k logged on during Alliance Tournaments.
Sturmwolke
#12 - 2012-09-04 02:24:25 UTC
Same as per Liang. GW2 and probably some folks playing on SISI/DUST beta.
The Missions forum has been fairly active on new posts, that's always a sign that players are coming back to the game.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#13 - 2012-09-04 02:31:55 UTC
C O'Brien wrote:
I've been seeing around 20k logged on when I do, a significant drop from when I used to play in '07 the numbers were nearly 50k. 60k logged on during Alliance Tournaments.


What time did you log on then vs what time do you log on now? You need to be careful not to equate moving the timezone of your play time to dropping subs/engagement. Seriously, the difference between logging on at the end of EU TZ and logging on just before AUS TZ starts is quite impressive - and is about what you described.

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Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-09-04 04:03:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Abel Merkabah
Paul Oliver wrote:
The defacto response I've seen to this question has to do with it being summer and EVE's population is always lower in the summer and increases in the winter.

Also if you're training marauders and you can afford them you might wanna check out the Golem and the Kronos which I hear are both very good at what they do, also the Vargur saw a lot of use in the last alliance tournament so those seem to be popular at the moment with the people who can fly those kinda ships.

Oh and as far as this turning into another EVE is dieing thread I hope not, we already have one of those here.


For clarification, that thread is not about Eve dying. If you read the thread you will see I hope and anticipate it lasting for 11 more years. It really was brought up to suggest a truly NPC influence free environment and what peoples reaction to that would be; I used the hypothetical end of Eves existence to place it in a consequence free environment, at least from a business perspective.

Edit - forum ate some of the post.

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#15 - 2012-09-04 04:17:38 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Guildwars 2 was just released. It's absolutely typical that a major MMO release will temporarily draw players away from Eve.

-Liang


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Me included. I'll be back though. So will everyone else. EVE is like a staph infection.

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FU10011101
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-09-04 04:48:16 UTC
watching the replys i have to say eve players are really hardcore trying to tell themselves all is well and are in denial that numbers really are low.. first it was spring and summertime and diablo launch. THAT IS WHY NUMBERS ARE DOWN. and now its oh yea schools started and some other game launched... major blobs in this game namely one huge coalition are killing 0.0 gameplay and suicide ganking freighters and jf from left and right in highsec as suicideganking freighters is so easy and cheap and results in huge loot. but its not all because of that. game is stagnating and people are losing will to play.
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#17 - 2012-09-04 06:08:18 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:


Without this turning into a classic EVE is dieing thread, I would like to ask if subscriptions have been down. Each time I log in I am seeing people online in the lower 30's and as of this moment only 28K. When I was active about a year ago I seem to recall allot higher numbers on tranquility.


I've logged on steradily for two days, and ever time I go in I see numbers in the range of 43-44,000.

It's all about the time you log in. Mornings are very slow, but afternoons in Pacific time are pretty busy.
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#18 - 2012-09-04 06:15:54 UTC
EU TZ usually has around 44k+ online when I get back from work. EVE is dying

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Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#19 - 2012-09-04 06:22:52 UTC
From personal experience, Being that i have just returned after a 2 year break.

Yes numbers are down. But that doesnt mean that EVE is dying..... Kiddies have just gone back to school and or they are still in a country much hotter than where i am...

Though i lack interest for 0.0 anymore, i have become an Empire dwelling ButtMonkey, War decking the hell out of people dumb enough not to look at local.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#20 - 2012-09-04 06:49:39 UTC
A lot of people are going back to school this week. In the southern states, they start in August, and in the northern, they start around now. This is a disruption to schedules. College schedules are similar.


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