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Flying to the center of a star

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BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#1 - 2012-09-03 17:25:34 UTC  |  Edited by: BeanBagKing
TL;DR http://i.imgur.com/B8Fmp.jpg <-- diagram of a star in Eve

So I was bored recently and decided trying to fly to the center of a star in an interceptor. I fit out a reasonable fast claw, didn’t try to make it anything special though, warped to the local star, and started burning towards it. I found a few things I figured I’d share for those that always wondered what would happen.

First, for those that don’t know, sometimes when a cyno is destroyed as you are jumping through you will appear at the center of that systems star and bounce millions of km even in a light ship, farther if the ship has more mass. I wanted to do the same thing, but by flying into the center so I could bookmark it and bounce anytime I wanted. 238,000 km sounds like a long way, but it’s not so bad AFKing in an interceptor, so off I went.

I created a lot of bookmarks along the way in case my connection dropped or something weird, about 12.7 hours into the journey I reached the star, which I found was only the edge of the hitbox around the star. Think of it like a shield around a POS if you’ve ever added one to your overview. You approach the POS, get closer and closer to the shield, reach 0, and keep going. How much farther could it be to the center? I thought…

Turns out the warp in to the end of the hitbox is only about 39% of the journey. The hitbox to the point on the star you bounce at is another 368,078 km away (61% of the total distance). The total distance you need to travel is 606,825 km (appx, I assume it’s roughly the same for most stars). In my claw, moving about 5,100 m/s, this took about 32.5 hours*.

Something interesting I found, when you reach the center, there’s a position not quite at the center, about 250 km away from it, where you bounce. You can never reach the absolute center without the cyno trick. I have the feeling this is similar to a POS shield if you change the password, the closer you are to the center, the more momentum builds, and the faster you get thrown out. So the best you can do is create bookmarks on each side of the center and warp from one to the other at 100 km, putting you 150 km from the center of the star.

If anyone knows a way (other than the cyno, preferably solo) that you can bookmark the real center, let me know.

http://i.imgur.com/ss5G9.jpg <-- looking out from somewhere near the center
Edit: http://i.imgur.com/y5EMa.jpg <-- speed bouncing in a bomber.

*I estimate, I didn’t sit there for all of it…
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#2 - 2012-09-03 17:36:31 UTC
That was actually kind of interesting.

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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
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#3 - 2012-09-03 17:41:47 UTC
Well done on an interesting experiment. Smile
Lucy Oreless
Rise of Rephaim
#4 - 2012-09-03 17:43:27 UTC
Dear god, i too have been bored Shocked but never this bored Big smile

But yeah... at least you did it in a way i gotta admit i like, well done sir Big smile

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BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#5 - 2012-09-03 17:51:27 UTC  |  Edited by: BeanBagKing
Edit: found a better bounce speed screen, see this post

http://i.imgur.com/RDh0A.jpg <-- bounce speed in a fairly low mass ship (my bomber) from the real center of a star (different bookmark, cyno trick). I have a feeling it may have been higher for a brief period right as I bounced, going to try for a better screen.

and yea, I like finding stuff in Eve that most people seem not to have done before. I've read about people doing this one, but nobody really drew up details on it, I was interested in what would happen. Glad to see a few people liked it.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-09-03 17:56:30 UTC
I did this in my old WH to use as a safe spot, was kinda shiny :)

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Jonah Gravenstein
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#7 - 2012-09-03 17:59:49 UTC
WTF is happening to GD, this is the second interesting and intelligent thread I've found today Big smile

Interesting experiment, something I would never have thought of doing.

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-09-03 18:06:52 UTC
Thank you for doing this BeanBagKing, you rock. Cool
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-09-03 18:09:17 UTC
I think you need more things to fill out your days

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BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#10 - 2012-09-03 18:12:05 UTC
You're probably right Surfin' :P

Better speed estamate, I ran fraps as I bounced and found the frame with the highest speed...
http://i.imgur.com/y5EMa.jpg

Also, since we're now talking about bounce speed, something else I did a while back. Only the first few seconds are entertaining so don't bother watching the entire thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHAOQPfWc0k
Kunming
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-09-03 18:23:38 UTC
OMG its... its looking back! Shocked
Loretta Stromgard
Infinite Burn
#12 - 2012-09-03 18:29:48 UTC
I bounced a titan off a star once. Took like 10 minutes to slow down.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-09-03 18:31:35 UTC
Kunming wrote:
OMG its... its looking back! Shocked


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Aine Ni
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-09-03 18:39:27 UTC
Tx for a good read :-)
stoicfaux
#15 - 2012-09-03 18:40:50 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Kunming wrote:
OMG its... its looking back! Shocked


It can see into your soul! Straight

Souls? In my Eve?

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stoicfaux
#16 - 2012-09-03 18:44:46 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
WTF is happening to GD, this is the second interesting and intelligent thread I've found today Big smile


Relax, it's just a re-run: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1422671-0/page/1 People have done star traveling in the past.

There's NO reason to worry that interesting and intelligent threads are taking over GD. So stop worrying and learn to love the GD.

/psa

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BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#17 - 2012-09-03 18:50:44 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:

Relax, it's just a re-run: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1422671-0/page/1 People have done star traveling in the past.

There's NO reason to worry that interesting and intelligent threads are taking over GD. So stop worrying and learn to love the GD.

/psa

Like I said above, I know a few people have done this before, but nobody really wrote out the details about it (where you bounce, how fast, total distance, etc). P I figured those that haven't done this or seen it done might like knowing all the little stuff. Honestly though, I expected a lot more people to tell me it was old news by now, I'm glad everyone seems to like the details.
Chribba
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Otherworld Empire
#18 - 2012-09-03 18:57:10 UTC
So that's what Bieber looks like on the inside? Well done Sir!

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-09-03 19:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
I got something star-related to tell. It was quite odd.
Not sure if i can retell it 100% exact, but it should be close enough.

There was an empty pod (yes, that happens) somewhere really close to the star and i probed it down.
I warped to it and saw it passing on the overview. I was closer to the star than the pod was.

So the pod was like 1000+ km away ... i probed it again and warped towards it.
Forward ... away from the star.

I saw the pod pass by in the overview ... but I got closer.

Now the fun thing was, that when i probed again and warped towards it ...
... i again warped forward ... and again passed the pod ... and got closer to it.

I did it again ... again warped forward, away from the star ... and passed it.

My ship NEVER turned around ... it was as if i was in some huge gravity field,
bending space into a sphere or something. It took me probably half a quarter to half an hour warping
straight forward, and i kept passing the pod until i finally landed on grid with it.


That was quite an interesting experience ... thought it fits into this thread. :)


(edit: thank you for this really good thread! :)
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#20 - 2012-09-03 20:03:56 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Thank you for doing this BeanBagKing, you rock. Cool


"Set the controls for the heart of the sun", never even heard that song, pretty trippy. Thanks.
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