Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Now that we have the pretty/fancy new launcher hardpoints, can we have a torp Naga? Every other ship/gun class out there allows you to run something with a full rack of guns, except torpedoes/cruise.

So to make up for releasing 2 similarly capable blaster boats out of the 4 new battlecruisers, you could at least give the Naga the option for fitting torp/cruise launchers so then all of us missile fanboys will have ourselves a viable (and fun) torp ship.

The only other real alternative is to fit up a torp CNR, and thats just not so fun.

Missiles were the only turret type that got ignored with the new battlecruiser release so pretty please can this be something considered for change?

At the time CCP hadn't finished the launcher hardpoints so it is understandable they didn't want their shiney new battlecruiser to be handicapped but the awful old launcher system. But since they made the new launchers there is no excuse.

Yes, it might be OP, but its also very very thin, which adds to the fun. The Talos can be considered OP with a ridiculous blaster setup and the Nado's have stupid alpha with arties, so why not add more to the "glass cannon" feeling and give the players of eve something they have never had, a true torp boat?

Yes, good, excellent idea.

Turn an incredibly hard hitting ship which functions at absolutely ludicrous ranges into a glass cannon with a broken weapon system that will fail to hit the target for full damage unless at least three target painters are on the target in question.

I remember flying a torp naga. It was easily the weakest and worst attempt at a T3 battlecruiser that I'd seen out of the four. With blasters, it was utterly terrifying. Rails, it had silly long range and still packed a reasonable punch. Torpedoes? It couldn't do anything. As a weapon system they are broken by how quickly damage bleeds out from factors like whether or not the target is a Caldari battleship, or moving at even a meter per second. All of the T3 BCs have PvP uses. If you really want this change, you will be removing the Naga from the pool of viable PvP ships and turning it into just another POS basher.

It was so good to not see whinging about how the Naga used hybrids instead of missiles for a while. Why did you have to bring these asinine arguments back?

^ This... seemed odd in my mind to release two ships that covered the same nitch (though I guess the Naga is better with rails than the Talos), and to expect that they would perform equally even though they have different specs is crazy, one will always be better than the other, and since there wasn't any other ship in the game that can use a full rack of launchers it seemed even more silly.

The blaster Talos may be better at "up close" combat... but the blaster Naga excels at kiting targets from afar (40+ km range with blasters using Null ammo)... and it shield tanks better.

The problem is that missiles already are slightly overpowered. Torpedoes are especially overpowered, they actually have higher DPS than mega neutron blasters. Missiles are supposed to have the lowest dps.

Still, I think they could make it have 6 launcher hardpoints like the Raven, or just nerf missiles and buff the hardpoints on missile boats, then give it 8.

OP you have the best name I've seen for a while +1 for that, I didn't bother reading the rest of the post

The torp Naga was worthless because its DPS could only be affectively applied against BS or, with painting support, t1/2 BCs. Unfortunately, the fundamental problem was that in the close-range gank-off that a torp Naga would have to take part in, it would very likely lose the applied DPS/EHP race to a BS or t2 BC. It certain;y would have been dead meat to another t3 BC.

I remember someone proposing Cavalry-Raven tactics for torp Naga gangs, using Doppler-shifted torp spam to overwhelm local and RR tank. But it didn't seem a very good idea. You'd have to get your torp Naga into position, lock up and redbox your target (giving time for hostile logi to start repping), then fly straight at them, giving them the opportunity to web and gank you. All so complicated when you can just fly a Tornado...

The Cruise Naga, relative to turret t3 BCs, had poor DPS in the important ~100 km region, compounded by flight time and missile damage application concerns. It was worthless too.

The current rail Naga may not have the close-range gankiness of a Talos. And it shouldn't, that's Gallente's realm. But neither does that Talos deal 700 DPS at 100 km...

Any chance you admitting the reason Torpedo (actually, missile) Naga fails is the fact cruise missiles are also lacking? That is: lacking DPS in the first place.

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