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Camping in DED plex - working as intended??
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Altivs Obvisivs
Metacortex Explorations
#1 - 2012-08-30 11:05:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Altivs Obvisivs
So, y'day I decide I wanna do a 1/10 DED in hisec (serpentis drug... something).
Warp first room, kill the npc required for activating gate.
Warp second room, kill spawn and the npc holding the key.
Warp third room, and lo and behold - there is a guy in the room allready, the container which sometimes drops faction loot is gone and he's speed tanking npc's.

Obviously, ha was there the whole time farming (since who knows when) as w/o key one cannot enter the final room.

So I file a petition for potential exploit, since I do feel camping 'final' rooms should be considered one, only to recieve 'working as intended' reply. It would be an exploit if the guy was afking or macroing the gm says. Well I'm certain that speed tanking npcs for hours (inbetween respawns) requires one's full attention, and as for me having to determine if someone is macroing or afking, well.. what can I say What?

Today I log in, warp to same DED, and guess what - same story all over. Different char tho. Didn't bother petitioning.
Working as intended.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#2 - 2012-08-30 11:33:34 UTC
Ok.
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#3 - 2012-08-30 12:18:54 UTC
Yes, I'm afraid this happens all over with the static DEDs, I've seen the same character in the same place for 1 week. In fact the only time I've seen them come out of it is because of downtime, and they have to go back in again.

So uh, yeah, working as intended I guess. Stupid but true. The thing is those doing the speedtanking are often completely afk, so you can rush in and ninja the overseer holding the loot :)

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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-08-30 13:43:11 UTC
And this is why static locations for exploration content is a terrible idea.
Vrykolakasis
Sparrowhawks Corp
#5 - 2012-08-30 14:41:43 UTC
It really isn't "exploration" is it?
Ginger Barbarella
#6 - 2012-08-30 15:12:19 UTC
Altivs Obvisivs wrote:
So I file a petition for potential exploit, since I do feel camping 'final' rooms should be considered one, only to recieve 'working as intended' reply.


It's not against the rules to be a complete moron wasting yer time. Plenty of folks do it in this game. Ship-up, go back, gank dude. Smile. Cool

Working as intended.

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Melina Lin
Universal Frog
#7 - 2012-08-30 16:01:30 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
[quote=Altivs Obvisivs] Ship-up, go back, gank dude. Smile. Cool

Actually it's like this: Ship-up, go back, "You may not pass! Yours truly, Acceleration Gate", whine and complain on the forums. Cool
Altivs Obvisivs
Metacortex Explorations
#8 - 2012-08-30 16:25:03 UTC
Melina Lin wrote:

Actually it's like this: Ship-up, go back, "You may not pass! Yours truly, Acceleration Gate", whine and complain on the forums. Cool


This.
Plus the fact that in hisec he can decide to completely ignore you if you can- flip in the first place.
Dunno, the fact that such behaviour is considered intended gameplay is beyond me.
Dennis Gregs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-08-30 16:41:23 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:

It's not against the rules to be a complete moron wasting yer time.

This.
Beta Stryker
Yet Another Holding Corporation
#10 - 2012-08-30 17:10:00 UTC
Vrykolakasis wrote:
It really isn't "exploration" is it?


Maybe we're 'exploring' boredom?
Sir Livingston
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-08-30 23:18:07 UTC
There are some static DEDs in low-sec. I'm willing to bet those aren't being camped "as often".

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Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#12 - 2012-08-31 02:37:04 UTC
Sir Livingston wrote:
There are some static DEDs in low-sec. I'm willing to bet those aren't being camped "as often".


Well if they are, you just shoot the other guy.

As it should be.

New fix: move all static 1-2/10s to low sec. Generate pvp and pve for new players in frigates/destroyers.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#13 - 2012-08-31 02:43:40 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:


New fix: move all static 1-2/10s to low sec. Generate pvp and pve for new players in frigates/destroyers.

+1

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Pipa Porto
#14 - 2012-08-31 03:37:31 UTC
Altivs Obvisivs wrote:
Melina Lin wrote:

Actually it's like this: Ship-up, go back, "You may not pass! Yours truly, Acceleration Gate", whine and complain on the forums. Cool


This.
Plus the fact that in hisec he can decide to completely ignore you if you can- flip in the first place.
Dunno, the fact that such behaviour is considered intended gameplay is beyond me.


Couple arty. A thrasher. Who cares if he agresses you for canflipping?

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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-08-31 07:33:29 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
New fix: move all static 1-2/10s to low sec. Generate pvp and pve for new players in frigates/destroyers.


Sadly, it seems making (public) sites frigate only or easy to complete (weak NPCs etc) doesn't help new players at all, it just makes it easier for older players to farm them.

Move the sites to lowsec, and they'll be farmed by ~1337 pvpers~ in pimped out pirate frigs, with high grade implant clone, combat boosters in cargohold and honourable solo ganglink alt in system, who'll gank any silly newbies trying to compete, and fleeing at the slightest whiff of danger Pirate
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-08-31 08:53:21 UTC
What am I unaware of? last I knew you have to shoot someone to get any cash. Sat there soaking up damage doesn't get you paid.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

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nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#17 - 2012-08-31 09:47:09 UTC
bump him, or create and alt on your account, train for webifier and web him (neut too if you want to).
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-31 11:22:54 UTC
nahjustwarpin wrote:
bump him, or create and alt on your account, train for webifier and web him (neut too if you want to).

this. if he's afk, he won't be tanking room aggro when webbed and neuted.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-08-31 12:31:50 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
nahjustwarpin wrote:
bump him, or create and alt on your account, train for webifier and web him (neut too if you want to).

this. if he's afk, he won't be tanking room aggro when webbed and neuted.


It's in HISEC.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-08-31 12:44:35 UTC
Ra Jackson wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
nahjustwarpin wrote:
bump him, or create and alt on your account, train for webifier and web him (neut too if you want to).

this. if he's afk, he won't be tanking room aggro when webbed and neuted.


It's in HISEC.

...so?

I should buy an Ishtar.
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