EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi

I think my question is to large to answer easily but:

I have been away for some time but have the time to get back on Eve for good hopefully. Before I left I did misions was part of a corp enjoyed mining etc and developing my character. the misions were very safe given the great support from th team but I never felt pushed and the misions became repetative. I am sure there is so much more to do than just this angle.

Now I am back a lot has changed and I wanted to know if there was some easy reading/advise on how to get going again. In addition my last corp never did PVP and I feel I missed out. Is there some good advise out there how to get into this side and how to spend some time in low sec.

I do feel I played it to safe last time and would like a broader experience of the game not limiting what I do to just one element but enjoying much of the whole game.

to sum it up I need to catch up and learn more about PVP and possibly recomendations on good corps that like misions, mining, building and PVP.

Thanks for your help

Yes. In fact, I will.

When you're in a good corp and flying with people who know what they're doing and are willing to help, each kill and loss is a learning opportunity. (Example: "Rifter died to an Omen? Next time try to orbit a bit closer to break his guns' tracking; ~insert explanation of how tracking works here~")

However, RvB is not the only place to do this. There are a lot of corps that have training newbies as one of their goals. Look for explicitly "newbie-friendly" corps. They need to have some experienced people willing to teach you, and not be just a corp full of newbies because the blind leading the blind is only entertaining to watch... not to be a part of.

And, one last word of advice: don't let people tell you you can't participate. Anyone, at any level of skill, can contribute to almost any fleet. If you are continually stunted and told you can't join by the people you're hanging out with, find other people.

As someone mentioned there are other avenues besides RvB. Red vs Blue is good for 1v1 and "canned PVP" experiences, but lets face it, thats just one experience.

Noir (popular merc group) has a training corp they recruit into. They, as mercs, are pretty rough on time requirements and such, but they are a good group of people who know their stuff.

There is also a division of Eve University (last i saw) that did as well, however, as i have never been a part of their crew, I don't dare "promise" they offer it.

I also run a training corp that trains newbies to move into PVP.

They key here isn't so much finding "a group that will take you", as it is finding "your flavor" of PVP.

As always, its risk vrs rewards. I will list the different "styles" of PVP, and my personal opinions on them. Realize that as they are MY opinions, they are of course not "facts".

Wormholes: Wormholes are an interesting PVP dynamic. First, you wander through wormholes like a blind man with a cane, hoping to "hit" what you are looking for. You could be in a hole with 50 people, or none... and if you don't hit them with your d-scan or combat probes while poking around, you will never know for sure. You can get some VERY good combat here, but the risks are, atleast to me, far greater as well. You must live out of a POS, and you must "scan your way out" every time you wish to leave.. hoping an exit takes you somewhere interesting. This means it is possible to leave your wormhole, and never find it again.... or get trapped and be forced to kill yourself to get out. Neither of these appeal to me...


Sov 0.0: Sov 0.0 is a lot of blob warfare, and super heavy fights, with the occasional skirmish. Like a wormhole, you must live out of a POS, and so all your assets are at risk (as the POS can be destroyed). Sov, however, offers some of the most "valuable" areas in the game in terms of every aspect of the game.. from mining, to kiling NPC's, to scanning.. as well as PI and other areas. My largets complaint about Sov is most of the groups there forget how to actually fight... they sit in a huge blob, attack what they are told, and don't actually think.

NPC 0.0: NPC 0.0 is "unclaimable" space controled by NPC's. Most of the time you are based out of an NPC station, which offers typical services, including missions. The risks are very different from Sov, as Capital Ship fleets and other types of blobs are of little concern, you simply dock into your station. However, as you can in no way truly "lay claim" to the territory, you can be camped in station and eventually forced out easier than Sov. The sites, astroid belts, rats, and other things are not as good as Sov, yet better still than low/high.

Low Sec PVP (typically piracy): Low sec PVP, is in my estimation, the most "dangerous" pvp. Dangerous because it is WILDLY unpredictable. Even the stations and the gates fire at people, sometimes seemingly at random once the fight begins. The rewards for missions/sites/NPC's and astroids are higher than high sec, but the lowest of the others. You also loose security standing, and can eventually become a criminal. (this is obviously my least favorite)

HIgh Sec War Decing: High sec war dec'ing is honestly, in my opinion, Jita Scams with guns. Small/medium sized "PVE corp" gets war dec'ed by small gang of rutheless thugs, and extorted for money, or, blown out of the sky. It gives you the opporunity to pick who you are targeting, meaning you can "scope out your prey" before hand. This is a "valid" way of making a living... it doesn't sit well with me personally, but its out there.

Faction Warfare: Honestly, I have NO idea about faction warfare. I cannot give a valid opinion because i have zero experience in it since the changes.

If you have any other questions, or want to hear my opinions on other things, hit me up here in the thread or in game, and I will see about getting you some answers.

Fly Safe.

Thank you. I have zero experience with them.

As the poster above me mentioned, RVB really should be its own category. I teach pilots more in 2 days than most typically learn in months about "standard pvp". This is of course my opinion.

Sov is basically player claimable space. You set up a "Teeitorial Claims Unit" (basically a big flag) and make it yours. The problem comes in that 0.0 Sov systems are highly valuable. You will have to defend it from groups with hundreds of capital ships. Yes, it is arguably where the greates rewards are, but let's say you move out there, get all of your items moved in... Now everything you own is inside of a killable structure. If Goons/Test/FA/(insert other major alliance here) decide they want your space you either fight them off, or you loose all of your local assets. Ships, modules, blueprints... All gone.

Risk Vrs Reward

As for POS's, they are Player Owned Structures, and are anchored to moons. They allow you to have alace to do basic and even advanced functions in space where no NPC's have placed stations for player use.

The posts have been really helpfull I had already looked on the adverts for corps but people are the best source of advice. thats what I enjoyed about it last time was the interaction with other players.

I rememeber how to train my skills etc but never did PVP in my old corp so never had the experience to recall.

I rememeber it can be easy to pick a bad corp and not get the experiance needed so I think the feedback is really handy.

nice read though