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New TACTICAL Maneuver

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#41 - 2012-08-28 14:55:25 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
well
them Battleships can sit still and shoot for all day long
Its only fair
Frigates and smaller ships get the same treatment :P


You, too, can sit still and shoot for all day long.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-08-28 14:58:38 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
well
them Battleships can sit still and shoot for all day long
Its only fair
Frigates and smaller ships get the same treatment :P


I-

Wh-

Yo-

And there we go.

The last **** I gave, gone.

Yeah, I think I'm done undocking for the next 12 months.

No, you can't have my stuff.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#43 - 2012-08-28 15:00:49 UTC
I would love to fly with joy stick.
Wont even have to be 1st person. Just need a new locked camera that moves with the direction of the ship.
And like any flight sim. Your ships movement is still based on its performance. It just trys to go the way you want it to just like spamming double click now.
Quaaid
Phoenix Foundry
#44 - 2012-08-28 15:04:52 UTC
Either way, Falcon jams you and die to the blob, man.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-08-28 15:07:24 UTC
Quaaid wrote:
Either way, Falcon jams you and die to the blob, man.


Denying this.

I haven't run into any issues like this one since starting a Falcon alt and blobbing alts.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#46 - 2012-08-28 15:08:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Quote:
I-

Wh-

Yo-

And there we go.

The last **** I gave, gone.

Yeah, I think I'm done undocking for the next 12 months.

No, you can't have my stuff.


Because people asking for more involved and interesting flight manuvers to be available somehow takes away from your ability to be "good" and double click in space, and makes it not worth undocking. Smile

Really? Lol

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-08-28 15:11:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Halete
Ranger 1 wrote:
Quote:
I-

Wh-

Yo-

And there we go.

The last **** I gave, gone.

Yeah, I think I'm done undocking for the next 12 months.

No, you can't have my stuff.


Because people asking for more involved and interesting flight manuvers to be available somehow takes away from your ability to be "good" and double click in space, and forces you to quit EVE. Smile

Really? Lol


Nah.

For one, I said 'not undocking for 12 months'.

Two, asking for less involvement is not... more involvement.

Three, your post was a strawman which is why I hadn't addressed it. You oversimplified my point and attacked the oversimplified version. "Double clicking in space doesn't make you skilled" but accurately manually piloting along a curve does. Having the computer run those calculations doesn't.

Also four, there's no chance in hell I as considering making that decision before seeing this thread which highlighted more prevalent personal issues for me than 'people want to make the game easier'. Nah.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-08-28 15:16:29 UTC
Halete wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Quote:
I-

Wh-

Yo-

And there we go.

The last **** I gave, gone.

Yeah, I think I'm done undocking for the next 12 months.

No, you can't have my stuff.


Because people asking for more involved and interesting flight manuvers to be available somehow takes away from your ability to be "good" and double click in space, and forces you to quit EVE. Smile

Really? Lol


Nah.

For one, I said 'not undocking for 12 months'.

Two, asking for less involvement is not... more involvement.

Three, your post was a strawman which is why I hadn't addressed it. You oversimplified my point and attacked the oversimplified version. "Double clicking in space doesn't make you skilled" but accurately manually piloting along a curve does. Having the computer run those calculations doesn't.

Also four, there's no chance in hell I as considering making that decision before seeing this thread which highlighted more prevalent personal issues for me than 'people want to make the game easier'. Nah.


well a little creativity in your flight patterns can't be boring lol

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XxRTEKxX
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#49 - 2012-08-28 15:59:37 UTC
I wish I could fly ships with my saitek x52 flight stick and throttle control. At least frigs dessies cruisers and battlecruisers.
its something I've wanted in this game since I first heard of EVE.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#50 - 2012-08-28 16:21:56 UTC
One of the reasons I play EvE is that it isn't crappy twitch based flight like JGE or Dark Prophecy.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#51 - 2012-08-28 16:37:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Quote:
A better .. but I'll say... not as likely system.. would be to give frigates MANUAL flight controls


Go and use Kerbal space program for that, or Google Earth flight simulator. Cool


EVE is RPG set in space, not a flight sim. Here you have this nonrealistic (magic) space properties, like a liquid, but not entirely a liquid. Spaceship is like a flying submarine with ballast tanks. You need constant energy input to maintain sub space speeds, planets are like soap bubbles, empty inside, and system is like a big room, CUBE painted inside. If you look carefully, you can see seam lines, where Devs welded it together. Cool
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-08-28 17:08:15 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Quote:
A better .. but I'll say... not as likely system.. would be to give frigates MANUAL flight controls


Go and use Kerbal space program for that, or Google Earth flight simulator. Cool


EVE is RPG set in space, not a flight sim. Here you have this nonrealistic (magic) space properties, like a liquid, but not entirely a liquid. Spaceship is like a flying submarine with ballast tanks. You need constant energy input to maintain sub space speeds, planets are like soap bubbles, empty inside, and system is like a big room, CUBE painted inside. If you look carefully, you can see seam lines, where Devs welded it together. Cool


Except jita, where your brain melts away and you sell Carbon for 1 billion isks and Hookbill for 100 mil,laughing your ass off as you have enough money to buy yourself a new shirt that cost as much as a faction bs or an eye that cost as much as a tengu

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#53 - 2012-08-28 17:15:52 UTC
Came in expecting the Death Blossom.

Not impressed.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#54 - 2012-08-28 17:32:34 UTC
Quote:
Except jita, where your brain melts away and you sell Carbon for 1 billion isks and Hookbill for 100 mil,laughing your ass off


Yes, some time ago, people even talked about EVE like it could be a big, juicy scam. I say: we should be gratefull that they gave us a static door with a trolling button. Lol
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-08-28 20:24:14 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
We got orbit , keep at range , bookmark herp derptry , and approach....
All of which are VERY elementary maneuvers ....
Now how about something different.
The Death Spiral
http://drvictoria.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/59056_121.jpg

where you spiral closer and closer towards your intended target.

Closing range ,maintaining transversal velocity as you approach the targets , making them turrets harder to hit you as you close distance and go for the kill.

A better .. but I'll say... not as likely system.. would be to give frigates MANUAL flight controls
Battlestar Galatica Online Style......
Which then you can go ape sheet with your ship
Credit :Xirin


BETTER YET!!!!!

Let the players DESIGN THEIR OWN MOVES!

Give the player manual control over their ship and do it TORIBASH style.


I don't know how to break this to you bro... but every single ship in this game can be flown manually.

The LULZ Boat.

Bommel McMurdoc
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-08-28 20:39:18 UTC
i know this comment is off topic and way out in left field but... gonna try something.

Haminie, Anarchy online.

for some reason I'm getting a reminder of that........ I can't seem to figure out why.

(if it doesn't make sense, just write me off as a schizo!)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#57 - 2012-08-28 21:42:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Halete wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Quote:
I-

Wh-

Yo-

And there we go.

The last **** I gave, gone.

Yeah, I think I'm done undocking for the next 12 months.

No, you can't have my stuff.


Because people asking for more involved and interesting flight manuvers to be available somehow takes away from your ability to be "good" and double click in space, and forces you to quit EVE. Smile

Really? Lol


Nah.

For one, I said 'not undocking for 12 months'.

Two, asking for less involvement is not... more involvement.

Three, your post was a strawman which is why I hadn't addressed it. You oversimplified my point and attacked the oversimplified version. "Double clicking in space doesn't make you skilled" but accurately manually piloting along a curve does. Having the computer run those calculations doesn't.

Also four, there's no chance in hell I as considering making that decision before seeing this thread which highlighted more prevalent personal issues for me than 'people want to make the game easier'. Nah.


1: I had corrected my post before you posted your response.

2: Being able to choose from an array of flight manuvers as opposed to clicking in space is not "less involvement"... and again, no one would be taking away your double click to turn left capability.

3: My 7 year old can double click in space and fly the ship in a curve, get over yourself. Also, flying the ship in a simple curve has little to do with the flight manuver being suggested... more like a spiraling barrel roll that keeps your speed and transversal up while closing range. Double click that.

4: I have no idea what they heck you are trying to say, other than perhaps you had already intended to take a break from undocking and decided to get emo about it in this thread to draw attention to your argument.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.

Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-08-29 13:51:42 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Halete wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Quote:
I-

Wh-

Yo-

And there we go.

The last **** I gave, gone.

Yeah, I think I'm done undocking for the next 12 months.

No, you can't have my stuff.


Because people asking for more involved and interesting flight manuvers to be available somehow takes away from your ability to be "good" and double click in space, and forces you to quit EVE. Smile

Really? Lol


Nah.

For one, I said 'not undocking for 12 months'.

Two, asking for less involvement is not... more involvement.

Three, your post was a strawman which is why I hadn't addressed it. You oversimplified my point and attacked the oversimplified version. "Double clicking in space doesn't make you skilled" but accurately manually piloting along a curve does. Having the computer run those calculations doesn't.

Also four, there's no chance in hell I as considering making that decision before seeing this thread which highlighted more prevalent personal issues for me than 'people want to make the game easier'. Nah.


1: I had corrected my post before you posted your response.

2: Being able to choose from an array of flight manuvers as opposed to clicking in space is not "less involvement"... and again, no one would be taking away your double click to turn left capability.

3: My 7 year old can double click in space and fly the ship in a curve, get over yourself. Also, flying the ship in a simple curve has little to do with the flight manuver being suggested... more like a spiraling barrel roll that keeps your speed and transversal up while closing range. Double click that.

4: I have no idea what they heck you are trying to say, other than perhaps you had already intended to take a break from undocking and decided to get emo about it in this thread to draw attention to your argument.


what?

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Doddy
Excidium.
#59 - 2012-08-29 14:04:41 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
We got orbit , keep at range , bookmark herp derptry , and approach....
All of which are VERY elementary maneuvers ....
Now how about something different.
The Death Spiral
http://drvictoria.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/59056_121.jpg

where you spiral closer and closer towards your intended target.

Closing range ,maintaining transversal velocity as you approach the targets , making them turrets harder to hit you as you close distance and go for the kill.



If you have ever flown a frigate and not done this you are an idiot. To automate it would just dumb eve down to beyond a joke, manual flying is pretty much the only "skill" (as opposed to knowledge and awareness) involved in the game.
Doddy
Excidium.
#60 - 2012-08-29 14:09:27 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

3: My 7 year old can double click in space and fly the ship in a curve, get over yourself. Also, flying the ship in a simple curve has little to do with the flight manuver being suggested... more like a spiraling barrel roll that keeps your speed and transversal up while closing range. Double click that.
t.


Ahahahahahahah

Seriously though do you really not know how to do a corkscrew approach?