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Grants Maple
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-08-28 12:21:22 UTC
Hello all! I've started playing Eve a few weeks ago, and the potential of the game is just awesome!

I have however a few questions..

I've never been a hardcore fan of PvP, the reason why I started playing Eve was the PvE side (economy, Wormholes looked cool, Player owned space etc).

Is there a reason to actually farm ISK if you are not very interested in PvP? I have bought a Apoc, the best implants i can use, have 350 mil ISK in my wallet and I just don't see a reason to farm more. Is there a reason to play this game if you're not interested in PVP?

I kinda enjoy farming stuff... But it has to be for a higher purpose.. I don't just wanna mine ore, sell ore and look at the wallet gets bigger, there must be something to actually strive at.

I really wanna play this game, but atm all I can do is login, set my skill queue and log out. I've gathered enough standing for L4 missions, but need more SP to actually fly my already fitted Apoc.

best regards
Grants
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-08-28 12:42:21 UTC
Some people try to make a living doing heavier industry - construction of ships, components, et cetera. It can be profitable, especially if you can do Tech-II invention and construction, but raw materials for Tech-II components and capital ship components require significant capital outlays. It's a classic case of needing money to make money (and an example of how it's easier to turn one billion into two billion than it is to turn one into two).

After all, ships get blown up all the time, and somebody's got to make new ones to replace them.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Sonya ni'Alcanta
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-08-28 12:44:05 UTC
Just my opinion... only YOU can answer this question. I mean... gathering ISK should not be your only goal. The most important is to find a way to have fun playing, and ISK is only a way to reach this goal.

Do you like mining? Do you like exploration? Do you like missioning? Do you like any activity you can currently do, or you'll be able to do when you'll have more ISK?

If the answer is no, then I don't think there is a point continuing playing. But if the answer is yes, then go on.

You shouldn't play just to earn ISK, you should play because you "like" what you do. No, pvp is not the only way to have fun, but it is different from one people to another one. Some only like pvp, some hate this. Some like factional warfare, some hate this. Some like mining (I mean, the action of mining, not just the ISK), some hate this. Some like XXX, some hate this. You get the point.

So you have to find yourself what you like to do. You can join a low sec or null sec corpo as well, they are not always about pvp, you can be an industrialist, a miner, a researcher in such corpos as well. Low sec or null sec gameplay is more dangerous, but perhaps more fun as well.

Good luck...
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-08-28 12:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Zanzbar
You have to set a goal for yourself to chase to keep yourself entertained in eve like being the go to guy in an alliance to have ships built, or being able to solo high lvl pve content, or simply moving to lowsec and 0.0 and surviving every day life. Eve is what you Make it and we cant tell you what you will be interested in, just how to get there once ytou decide that for yourself
Velicitia
XS Tech
#5 - 2012-08-28 14:43:24 UTC
Grants Maple wrote:

PvP side (economy, Wormholes looked cool, Player owned space etc).


Fixed that for you bud.

Economy -- "Market PvP", it's nearly entirely player-driven, with the exception of BPOs and trash trade goods (i.e. the NPC seeded stuff)
Wormholes -- nullsec, so any "protection" or "safety" you have is that which you make for yourself.
Sovereign Nullsec -- only way you're gonna claim sovereignty is if you kick the other guys out ... and keep them out.

If all you're looking for is "100% safe PvE" then, EVE might not be the game for you.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Jim Era
#6 - 2012-08-28 15:25:04 UTC
Well OP, almost everything in EVE is PvP. if you don't want that, leave now. Seriously.
If you are fine with accepting that you will be drawn into PvP at times when you least expect/want it to happen, then the universe is yours for the taking.
The "point" of farming or whatever it is you are doing is relative.
What is it you would like to do? Join a corp and your goal could be to help them grow and carve out a home of their own.

Wat™
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2012-08-28 15:30:59 UTC
If you dont like PvP, you will hate wormholes and SOV space

FC, what do?
Matriarch Prime
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-08-28 15:34:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Matriarch Prime
There is plenty of oppotunies in eve. You make your own goals. There is no quest line or breadcrumbs to follow. You set an objective for yourself. You can explore the mysteries of space, make a market empire, or conquer nations. Its all up to you and what you want to do.

If you haven't done the different career missions, they can help you find something that you may like to do.

I like big guns. I can not lie. You other suckas can't deny. When I warp in, with an itty bity sig, with an arty in your face, you get sprung. You want to pull out your debuffs, 'cause you want to loot my stuff...deep, in a worm with nary, an escape but you can't stop staring. 'Cause, Oh crap!, Baby's got Point!
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#9 - 2012-08-28 16:27:50 UTC
Allow me to suggest a different form of PVP that might be to your taste: Predator vs Prey.

Its one thing to do industry and trade in high sec, largely safe (but not completely so) from other players. Continuing to be an industrialist but wandering into low sec is a whole other ball game. I would argue that the increased danger posed by low sec makes you a better industrialist. It also makes your industrial activities (whatever they may be) more rewarding when you successfully profit from them.

You are still competing against other players. They want to blow you up and take your stuff, and you want them not to. In this case, victory does not mean blowing them up, but merely escaping to bring your goods to market.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Davith en Divalone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-08-28 16:39:13 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Allow me to suggest a different form of PVP that might be to your taste: Predator vs Prey.

Its one thing to do industry and trade in high sec, largely safe (but not completely so) from other players. Continuing to be an industrialist but wandering into low sec is a whole other ball game. I would argue that the increased danger posed by low sec makes you a better industrialist. It also makes your industrial activities (whatever they may be) more rewarding when you successfully profit from them.

You are still competing against other players. They want to blow you up and take your stuff, and you want them not to. In this case, victory does not mean blowing them up, but merely escaping to bring your goods to market.


Similar to hounds and hares, or wartime merchant marine operations. While the pirates and wolf-packs tend to get all the historical glory, equally brave and equally clever crews took on the duty of using available intelligence and tactics to avoid becoming a prize.
Toaulk Rokbyter
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-08-28 17:06:41 UTC
I gotta weigh in on this one...

First, I want to point out that indeed, everything in this game you do is in almost direct contention with another. If you sell something, you have just helped someone beat out an opponent in the market either by bidding higher, or by being in the right place at the right time. Competition is what drives this game.

You seem to believe that "bigger and better stuff" is what the game is about. The "best implants" and a "fully fit bship" do not a successful eve career make. This isn't a game of "who's is bigger".

You need to find a goal for yourself. You need something to aim for. Market domination, ship construction master, exploration wizard,... you need a niche to fill.

Ohh... and PVP in this game isn't like PVP in other games. Not only do you play for keeps, but the guy with the most expensive toys doesn't always win either.

http://kb.theidealmachine.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=3245

You might just find yourself enjoying it here... but don't just jump into low sec, get jumped by 5 players at the gate, and think you understand PVP in this game. Find a group to learn with/from, and take baby steps in the right direction.

In EVE, no one has it all... there is always another goal.

You want a goal... have enough capital to buy out jita. Crazier things have happened, and they changed the face of the entire game. Find a way you make a splash, and go all in.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-08-28 17:14:52 UTC
Grants Maple wrote:
Hello all! I've started playing Eve a few weeks ago, and the potential of the game is just awesome!

I have however a few questions..

I've never been a hardcore fan of PvP, the reason why I started playing Eve was the PvE side (economy, Wormholes looked cool, Player owned space etc).

Is there a reason to actually farm ISK if you are not very interested in PvP? I have bought a Apoc, the best implants i can use, have 350 mil ISK in my wallet and I just don't see a reason to farm more. Is there a reason to play this game if you're not interested in PVP?

I kinda enjoy farming stuff... But it has to be for a higher purpose.. I don't just wanna mine ore, sell ore and look at the wallet gets bigger, there must be something to actually strive at.

I really wanna play this game, but atm all I can do is login, set my skill queue and log out. I've gathered enough standing for L4 missions, but need more SP to actually fly my already fitted Apoc.

best regards
Grants


1.) SOV warfare and WH is definately PvP related. If you don't like PvP, you won't like SOV warfare and WH.

2.) You don't want to PvP, yet you don't want to mindless grind stuff for ISK.

SOLUTION: Log in, start spinning your ship for 3 hours, log out.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2012-08-28 18:41:36 UTC
J'Poll wrote:


SOLUTION: Log in, start spinning your ship for 3 hours, log out.



y'know ... with the counter, that's PvP now too... Cool

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-28 19:21:32 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
J'Poll wrote:


SOLUTION: Log in, start spinning your ship for 3 hours, log out.



y'know ... with the counter, that's PvP now too... Cool


I actually battled against a corp member to see who got over 9000 first.Twisted

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