EVE General Discussion

well then maybe it's a 'double or nothing' sort of thing then. you could blow his ship up and get three or four modules.. or you could board him, and have the chance to get almost all of his modules. but if you lose... you get nothing. if you lose then you lose all of the isk you spent feeding and training that now very dead infantry combat crew :)

Sounds logical.

Boarding enemy ships may be a flawed concept for various reasons, but using Dust mercs to gain control of an enemy pos might be a more workable mechanic...

Any takers?


Edit: or would that be too close to WiS for some people?

Also reminds me of the assault shuttles from MOO2.

Which leads me to: Hey, new idea! Assault shuttles for EvE! In lieu of drones you could launch an assault shuttle at a target and attempt to capture it intact. Would breathe new life into piracy everywhere!

Because let's face it, piracy in EvE is actually underrepresented. No, seriously, hear me out! Look at how real pirates have always operated throughout history. They don't go around blowing ships up and scavenging through the wreckage (at least not on purpose). No, they always tried (and still try) to board and capture their targets. Sometimes they'd just take the cargo, sometimes they'd take the whole ship. Either way, compared to EvE, real world piracy makes a heck of a lot more sense.

Yet it seems like CCP refuses to touch this issue with a ten meter pole for some reason. Why? A lost ship is a lost ship as far as the victim is concerned, so does it really matter the lost it to an explosion or outright theft?

So why not have things like assault shuttles and start stacking marines into the cargo bay as "ammo?" Bring you own stack of marines to repel boarders. You could give your shuttles orders to capture the ship (highest risk, least likely success), steal cargo (low risk, medium success rate) or simply sabotage components (medium risk, high chance of success)?

So much untapped potential here, CCP! Get to it!

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People do it on a regular basis - they eject and we sack the vessels...just 2 days ago we aquired a Caldari Battleship (or is it a locomotive?) worth 230 000 000 million ISK of a gentleman from the North-West of New Eden. If I recall correctly the pod did not manage to warp away despite the fact that we were only two Toll - inspectors in battlecruiser.

That sounds like a very vague thing and I don't see how you could make it work in practise. If you get locked down and boarded, you're likely ganged upon by multiple hostile ships and have no way to escape. Your ship would have to be made immune to everything while being boarded(hi abusable mechanic o/) and also afterwards, if the boarding fails. Otherwise the pirates will kill you, if they think the boarding attempt is likely to fail or the fleet holding you down will do it after the attempt has failed. You're also going to have to implement all kinds of griefin limitation mechanics to the system or just allow the victim to selfdestruct, making all that work largely pointless. None of these are good solutions and some are really immersion breaking and abusable. The details are everything here.

Equally importantly it is not fun for the victim in any scenario, since he has to sit there doing nothing while other people have fun playing the game at his expense. Drawn out boarding mechanics work better in single player games and NPC targets, but not on player controlled entities. For the victim you offer forced removal of control, boredom and almost certain death anyway because of attempted rule evasion by the hostile party. No one wants to be the victim of that let alone pay for the privilage and CCP certainly shouldn't waste their time on such things, unless someone can come up with a detailed plan how it all fits together and provides fun gameplay options for everyone.