EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello all,

Recently, veteran players been scanning me down and coming into my missions and suicide ganking me.

Any tips how to deal with that? I try to warp out but they warp jam me and rain hell on me. I lost a batlteship before due to that and last night I saw someone coming into my misson and I did not even bother to think about staying. I warped and left.

Samir,

People don't suicide gank without good cause. They don't do it to grief (well... mostly not)... they do it to profit. You had to have fits worthy of suiciding.

The other, and more highly likely scenario, is that someone showed up in your mission pocket and started ninja-looting/salvaging, and you shot at them because they became red and you panicked. As soon as you fired a shot, you opened yourself up for counter attack, and you lost.

The lesson here is, don't do silly things.. like fly multi-billion isk fits. Also, don't target/attack other players unless you are intending to kill them. There are ways to deal with the problem, but you need to be honest with yourself about which problem you have.

Yeah unless they had a few tornado alpha you and they all got concorded then you let them shoot you.

Or was this in low sec?

If you were in high sec and the last fights took longer then about half a minute then it wasn't a suicide gank, they shot you legally.

Edit: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14450213

Yup looks like you agressed him and he slowly whittled you down. That wasn't a suicide gank, simply don't shoot them next time.

I set all wrecks to abandoned (blue), and let them loot whatever they want.

They don't flash red, just red. But yes, it's probably them trying to goad you into attacking them. Apart from that, don't have a "faction fetish" when it comes to fitting your ships, it tends to attract gankers. You're ofcourse fine to do it in moderation but if you start adding pith-x nonsense or the likes then you're making yourself a target,

Yep. When they just loot your wrecks, they are simply red. When they are shooting at you, they are red and have blinking red highlights around them.

edit: Joking aside I recommend you do two things.

1. Open up your overview (can only be done in space by clicking the upper left corner of it and selecting "Overview Settings") and play around with it a bit. It takes some getting use to... but it's fairly simple... ish.
The "lists" in some of the tabs you find prioritizes things from the highest (top of the list) to the lowest (bottom of the list). Make sure that certain friendly states supersede hostile markers as you may find friends who do bad things in the future.

2. Ask people in-game and/or review the EVELOPEDIA entries regarding aggro mechanics. Knowledge is power and that guy who killed you used your lack of knowledge to his advantage.

Yes there is.....

Different flags represent different types of aggression... I have no idea what the default overview setting is now, but I know what the general rules are:

1.) Outlaw is a pilot with a sec status below -5.0.... you can legally shoot them in highsec, and faction police will chase them in highsec if they are in a ship... They cannot legally shoot you until you shoot at them... but they became an outlaw by doing illegal stuff.
2.) GCC is a pilot that recently committed a crime and was flagged by concord as a current criminal... Concord will soon show up and kill them if they are in highsec and in a ship... They can't legally shoot you, but often will if they think they can kill you in the precious 20 or less seconds it takes for concord to show up.
3.) War Target is a pilot at war with your corp/alliance/militia, and they can shoot you, and you can shoot them at will...
4.) Thief... is a pilot that stole from you, and you can legally shoot.... They can't legally shoot you unless you shoot at them..

People I can shoot are red, people I can't shoot are not red.... just like God and CCP intended

tsk tsk

The default setup I believe is blinking means they can shoot you. Red just means you can shoot them.