EVE General Discussion

Would rather they fixed all the broken crap first.

The thing is, it's not a Galaxy it's a cluster. A small portion of a Galaxy, maybe the milky way, maybe not.

In terms of adding more systems, I do miss times when New Eden seemed MASSIVE. Right now, although there are systems that are empty, the cluster is still heavily overpopulated with a shortage of resources for its inhabitants that are driving prices up drastically.

What I'd love to see CCP do, is split the four Empires apart and create what is basically a demilitarised zone between them all now that they're at war, which would mean that each sovereign empire would have its own racial central market hub akin to Jita, and travelling cross empire would mean you'd be forced to skip through one or more of the lowsec/nullsec bands that separate them.

In RP terms, I'd bill this as an event the same, but on a much larger scale as the event that destroyed Seyllin when wormholes were introduced.

My vision for Eve would be a cluster much larger than it is now, with four distinct areas of highsec, separated by lowsec and nullsec owned by the pirate factions that's rich with resources and opportunity if people dare risk venturing into it. Of course the map would still be surrounded by nullsec, and the existing 0.0 would still remain around the outside of the map for those who want to wage sov wars.

Imagine that. An Eve where travelling was risky again, where the Guristas were border to border with the state and they were actively raiding each other, the Amarr were persistently fighting off blood raider incursions, the Serpentis were actively smuggling into Federation space, and the Fed were trying to stop them, and the Cartel were bashing at the Republic's door.

Then imagine that players could be a part of that, choosing either to support the pirate faction, or the nationalist political bloc in a revamped version of factional warfare that actually meant something. Then toss in the people who're doing sov wars around the outside of all that, plus Sansha kicking off with everyone, and those who just want to stay neutral and watch the world burn.

Then on top of that imagine the four empires being separated, and the lowsec/nullsec between them making a whole class of ships - Black Ops battleships and all the covert ops hulls actually useful. It'd even give a defined purpose to jump freighters. Imagine a third type of cynosural field being introduced that's restricted by CONCORD and only handles industrial class vessels and unarmed transports, meaning you'd have to fly an escort along side it with its own cyno chain and actually have to organise yourselves.

Then there's the merc potential, contracting out to militias or corporations to clear a path through lowsec and create a safe trade route for people to move through and resupply the front lines in factional warfare. Imagine integrating dust into all this, being able to fight for the Guristas or the State as a member of ground forces, even storming stations as part of missions while capsuleer eve players are attacking them from space outside.

Imagine as a DUST player, being the close protection for a Serpentis loyal Capsuleer in INCARNA as he goes to meet for a drug deal, and watching in horror as you're ambushed and have to fight your way out as a mission, keeping your principle alive. Then a string of missions lead off that creating a dynamic and interactive arc for everyone involved.

The whole of Eve on fire with war, and even the industrialists overworked with business, trying to keep up with demand for new technologies and bulk orders of ships and modules because everyone's blowing the everliving hell out of eachother.

And that's just an outline of what I'd do with Eve... I've got so many ideas buzzing around inside my head that I'd love to see in this game that if I posted them all I'd probably crash the web servers.

Eve has so much potential for future years. I can't wait to see where CCP take it.

Personally i would rather take more unknown systems. Random chance that wh might lead to somewhere where none has been before... After all there was dev saying in blog post " Who knows where wormholes leads...."

But then again, most of 0.0 is empty, seriously theres none there... Power blocks take systems and project their power over unclaimed systems as well.. Hmm, maybe its not CCP that needs to do things here, maybe its us players that has to make things happen. Not just big wars with trillions of loses....

Space is fairly empty, might be beneficial to make it barren of life for countless more solar systems. but instead of making it even'd out around the cosmos make it deeper. Perhaps only wh's lead to them?

The issue with the game isn't lack of systems, it is force projection and lack of any requirement to make use of systems in order to claim them.

I'd like to see a couple of new regions added, populated by new and exciting pirate factions.

Why don't we have Gallente/Amarr and Minmatar/Caldari ship combinations yet? I'd pay quite a lot for one of those black and blue EoM Armaggedons...

That's exactly what he's asking.

His point is that if nothing in WiS is going to benefit FiS then the devs shouldn't bother with developing anything in WiS at all.

Since Incarna came out this has become a split decision among the community.

A chunk wants it regardless of what it contributes to the game, so long as they can meet other characters.
A chunk wants it but would prefer it to mean something.
A chunk doesn't want it but will accept it if it is meaningful.
A chunk doesn't want it ever, regardless of what it does it will be nothing more than an annoyance that should have never had dev time wasted upon its development and it's existence is a cancer to the game.

From what I can gather most people are of options 2 and 3 with decent comprise regarding functionality.

People that are of options 1 and 4 will likely never be convinced of each other's opinions, citing each other as illogical regardless of argument or point of view.

However a lot of guys that are of option 3 are borderline option 4.....

It would add a lot of space to the game if you could walk in stations or other structures. And this thread is about expanding the known universe, so this is probably the best suggestion to achieve that. Entirely new game mechanics, new items (mabye even player designed ones, if CCP actually bothers to give players some creative autonomy), new venues for exploration, combat, socializing or building stuff. More immersive gameplay, more complexity, more choices etc. Even if FiS didn't benefit much from it, it would make the game feel much bigger than it currently does.

Adding some new systems, minerals or a new group of NPCs just means adding more of the same, within the already existing game mechanics.

The main problem is that CCP needs years just to make minor changes any decent programmer could do in an afternoon. At the moment, it seems unlikely they will ever be able or willing to implement anything beyond some avatar cosmetics.

Because Muad'Dib already controls the known universe and the trit must flow!

I think for the moment, the galaxy is about the right size.

You have to have empty systems for explorers and privateers to go to and look arround. But you can't have to many, otherwise the population would be so spread out you would never see anyone. I'm in a high sec system and I dont see that many people.

CCP should only start adding systems once some of them start getting very overcrowded.

To do that they have to push marketing and attract more players.