Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The d-scanner is a tool all of us in low/null sec use all the time. It's also a piece of crap. While CCP is on the fixing old stuff bit, I suggest redoing the d-scanner from scratch. Delete it in its current form and give us a proper radar set. My proposal for this radar set is as follows:

1) Gives a heading for all ships and selected items within a 14au range while in active mode.

2) Provides only general data on long range targets (a stabber will show up simply as "cruiser") in both active and passive modes.

3) Data increases in detail as range decreases, the exact range it would start giving specific ship types is debatable.

4) At short ranges in active mode, it can provide a range (I'm thinking 1-2au) thus granting a warpable point. This would be subject to substantial deviation however (you might land 150km from your target or right next to him). The deviation would go down the closer you get.

5) Radar can be used in active and passive modes. In active mode it alerts everyone of your presence within 2x your radar range (28au).

6) In passive mode, your radar doesn't reveal you but it has greatly reduced functionality. You can still see ships and objects using active radar at up to 28au but ships and objects in passive mode (or without radar) will only show up at 4au. You cannot get a range or warpable point regardless of how close you are in passive mode.

7) both combat and core probes are powerful active scanning devices and as such will show up on everyone's radar set regardless of its mode at extreme ranges (system wide).

Optional: IFF system allowing you to identify radar targets as friend or foe (gives standings/corp/alliance info only). This would be a short range feature.

That's it, proceed with ripping it apart and calling me a fool.

I was very tempted to tie this into a local chat change proposal but opted not to simply because of how beaten to death that topic is. I am also well aware that it wouldn't actually be radar, it would be a radar like device operating on a technology that hasn't been invented. But let's not discuss eve physics, they are most definitely cringe worthy.

learn 2 dscan

You were watching some submarine movie while writing this?
I ask because that active and passive mode... thats like sonar.
You listen to sound (in this case EM waves) and you have some info about what is around you, but when you ping (create burst of sound (in this case EM wave)) you get much more info but others are alerted that you are here because pinging is loud.

I like sonar type scan idea a lot...

I think this is a great idea to have radar. I don't support the idea of the radar to provide you with warp points on player ships however.

I also Definitely think that Dscan is currently pretty dumb. It's easy to use and I'm not complaing about that... but we're flying some really high tech spaceships here and yet a crappy list is what we get? it's nonsense. I don't completely agree on deleting it's current form since it doesn't require a lot of resources (it's lean).

/me gives thumbs up to a more advanced radar system.

Dscan is fine, everybody gets some basic information and it scales very well with actual playerskills (the one not measured in sp mind you).

Edit: It could be nice to add some features to it, possibly a greater range for reduced scan angles or something similar but it certainly shouldnt be removed.

I like this idea a lot, I also like the idea of tying it to local, but I understand the OP's reasoning for omitting that option as it becomes the focus of the thread.

D-Scan is very primitive considering the setting of the game and I agree that an update is needed. I do believe that a completely auto/passive system is to black and white. There should be a manual button that works much like the current d-scan and gives the ship a snapshot of whats going on without entering fully active mode. It shouldn't give trajectories and such, just positions since it is a single scan and no delta value can be projected.

I also put in that ships that are cloaked can only use the passive abilities, I know that it was implied but I think that it needs to be clairified.

I had a 3d display in mind for viewing the info in addition to a list mode style we currently have. I also agree that it shouldn't allow on grid warping.



Good idea, fits in perfectly. Not exactly sure on how to balance out the various effects but this is only a general idea discussion.



Actually I'm a big aviation buff so I was thinking of how real world military radar works. Modern military aircraft have a radar and a radar warning receiver. The radar works exactly like you'd think, it emits EM radiation and can use that to get both bearing and distance information. It does have limitations though like giving inaccurate ranges when you reach the limits of the set's range. It also alerts everyone at about twice you're radar's range of your presence via their radar warning receiver. The radar warning receiver alerts you of any active radar sets within it's detection range. It gives you basic info on it such as if it is airborne, SAM, ship or whatever else. It can't give range though, only type and bearing information.

everything is wrong with dscan from a gameplay perspective

Good idea, i would love to see a sort of visual radar of roughly where everything is on the D-scan list, plus it just pulsing like a radar, and having to watch more where who ever comes for me, or where my target is heading towards.

Gankers should be also happy with this kinda of suggestion, as you can then see roughly where you're target is heading towards.

I am against the creating a warp to point though, thats what probes are for.

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Jessy.