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What would be a good name for your pilot to confuse enemies' FC ?
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Acwron
Meet The Fockers
#1 - 2012-08-27 11:10:12 UTC
Also please tell us how you think the hostile's comms would be :)

I'll have a go :

Not Me

Hostile FC : Primary Not ME, I said primary Not ME !
People in fleet : Chill man, you're not primary !

Who's That

Hostile FC : Who's That primary! Who's That primary!
People in fleet : You should know man, you're the FC...( FFS, I really hate this guy, I like the other FC tbh...)

Let this be a fun thread :)
papamike
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-08-27 11:13:24 UTC  |  Edited by: papamike
Da Drakefirst

Then just make sure you never fly Drakes.


"NoWarpOff" is another option. Might get confusing in the heat of the moment
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#3 - 2012-08-27 11:18:11 UTC
If your FC is calling targets by name and not ship-type and isn't broadcasting targets, get a new FC.
Tiberius Sunstealer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-08-27 11:18:17 UTC
"The Capsule" or "Anyone But Logistics".
Adoro
Below the Asteroids Ltd.
#5 - 2012-08-27 11:19:58 UTC
Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:
"The Capsule" or "Anyone But Logistics".


Haha I like the second one.

Mine would be:

Secondary

"Secondary is Primary"
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-08-27 11:21:55 UTC
"my ****"
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#7 - 2012-08-27 11:25:33 UTC
I created a character called "Primary is Shadoo" in the hope that I will one day either join PL or one of their enemies...

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-08-27 11:29:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
... and this is one of many reasons why calling targets on voice is plain stupid.
Exclusively use broadcasts instead and enjoy a stress & confusion-free fleet experience where comms are silent for 80% of the fight and no important information can get lost in chatter.

Also the FC's job is to hold things together, to communicate with scouts/allies and to make the high-level tactical decisions (engage, disengage, regroup, positioning/movement, types of ships to shoot at. ...), actual calling/broadcasting of targets can be safely delegated to a different person.

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William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#9 - 2012-08-27 11:31:47 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
... and this is one of many reasons why calling targets on voice is plain stupid. Use broadcasts and enjoy a stress and confusion-free fleet experience where comms are silent for 80% of the fight and no important information can get lost in chatter.

Also the FC's job is to hold things together, to communicate with scouts/allies and to make the high-level tactical decisions (engage, disengage, regroup, positioning/movement, types of ships to shoot at. ...), actual calling/broadcasting of targets can be safely delegated to a different person.


Sounds like you haven't been in proper fleet engagements, professor.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#10 - 2012-08-27 11:33:45 UTC
Best I've seen is just make names that are a PITA to pronounce. This causes hesitation when the FC tries to figure out how to call it.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Tiberius Sunstealer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-08-27 11:40:02 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
I created a character called "Primary is Shadoo" in the hope that I will one day either join PL or one of their enemies...

One day you will, my friend. One day. o7
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-08-27 11:45:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
William Walker wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
... and this is one of many reasons why calling targets on voice is plain stupid. Use broadcasts and enjoy a stress and confusion-free fleet experience where comms are silent for 80% of the fight and no important information can get lost in chatter.

Also the FC's job is to hold things together, to communicate with scouts/allies and to make the high-level tactical decisions (engage, disengage, regroup, positioning/movement, types of ships to shoot at. ...), actual calling/broadcasting of targets can be safely delegated to a different person.


Sounds like you haven't been in proper fleet engagements, professor.

that's funny... I actually had expected the criticism to come from the other end of the spectrum as while what I wrote works very well for large engagements it doesn't really apply to small gangs.

edit: I think I made a solid argument in favor of the style I advocate (dedicated target caller who relies on broadcasts) - less stress for everyone in the fleet (= less mistakes), better communications, frees up the FC for more important work.

Instead of replying with arguments of your own, your post comes down to "that's not how we do things" and "you are a NPC corp character without a killboard".

That's somewhat understandable as the only arguments in your favor would be an excuse about bugs/lag (long time since I've experienced issues with broadcasts, nothing prevents you from switching back to calling targets on comms if that should happen) and several variations of "our fleet members are bad" (at setting up their fleet interface, at following broadcasts, at making autonomous decisions, at ...).

I have never flown in a FA fleet but I am going to take a wild guess and claim that in those instances where you want to avoid unnecessary mistakes and can rely on your fleet members not being completely retarded (i.e. in capital fleets) you probably do things pretty much the way I advocate.

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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-08-27 11:46:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Halcyon Ingenium
The Tard

FC: Primary The Tard

Pilot: Lol, which one?

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#14 - 2012-08-27 11:46:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinstar Colton
IIIlllIllllllIIlllIIIllll

With your alts and fleet mates using variations of lower case "L"s and upper case "i''s.

Good luck telling those apart.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

OmniBeton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-08-27 11:50:40 UTC  |  Edited by: OmniBeton
I think the best would be "Me"

Imagine FC saying "Primary target is Me, I repeat, shoot Me, shoot Me".
Barrak
The Painted Ones
#16 - 2012-08-27 11:58:40 UTC
Primary:

that one
this one
anyone
him
her
the harpy (insert any ship name)
the gate
topoflist
who lands first
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-08-27 11:59:31 UTC
Salute

Fire

Stroke

Poke

Strap on

Engage

Probe

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#18 - 2012-08-27 12:19:31 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
William Walker wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
... and this is one of many reasons why calling targets on voice is plain stupid. Use broadcasts and enjoy a stress and confusion-free fleet experience where comms are silent for 80% of the fight and no important information can get lost in chatter.

Also the FC's job is to hold things together, to communicate with scouts/allies and to make the high-level tactical decisions (engage, disengage, regroup, positioning/movement, types of ships to shoot at. ...), actual calling/broadcasting of targets can be safely delegated to a different person.


Sounds like you haven't been in proper fleet engagements, professor.

that's funny... I actually had expected the criticism to come from the other end of the spectrum as while what I wrote works very well for large engagements it doesn't really apply to small gangs.

edit: I think I made a solid argument in favor of the style I advocate (dedicated target caller who relies on broadcasts) - less stress for everyone in the fleet (= less mistakes), better communications, frees up the FC for more important work.

Instead of replying with arguments of your own, your post comes down to "that's not how we do things" and "you are a NPC corp character without a killboard".

That's somewhat understandable as the only arguments in your favor would be an excuse about bugs/lag (long time since I've experienced issues with broadcasts, nothing prevents you from switching back to calling targets on comms if that should happen) and several variations of "our fleet members are bad" (at setting up their fleet interface, at following broadcasts, at making autonomous decisions, at ...).

I have never flown in a FA fleet but I am going to take a wild guess and claim that in those instances where you want to avoid unnecessary mistakes and can rely on your fleet members not being completely retarded (i.e. in capital fleets) you probably do things pretty much the way I advocate.


Usually the FC calls targets over voice because it is a sad fact that a majority of people will ignore broadcasts. Some people also ignore the voice of the FC, least there be another designated caller. I have witnessed this in FA fleets as well as other CFC fleets. Occasionally everything will crumble apart and random people will call targets, but by then everyone is dead/dying anyway.

Capital fleets are different and usually as you stated because it involves BIG BUCKS. But in reality most voice communication is pretty messy.

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-08-27 12:33:18 UTC
A good FC will switch to letters combined with broadcasts.


Primary "en oh tee, en oh tee, en oh tee", secondary "W H O, W H O",

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Larg Kellein
Bacon Appreciation Society
#20 - 2012-08-27 12:58:40 UTC
It'll only work on a bad FC with worse fleet members, but I actually have an untrained alt named "Friendly FC". I was drunk and thought I had to own that name.
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