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Planned lowsec sentry "fix" - you guys serious?

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Ieldan
Tea Tactics
#861 - 2012-08-24 02:40:30 UTC
Yeah guys, she lives in low sec so she knows things... She played for 2 hours and out of them 2 hours a gate was camped in low sec for 1hour and 40mins. So if thats the case for her it must mean at least 64% of low sec gates are camped......

Seriously just cos your a CSM it doesn't mean anything,

There is only a small amount of low sec gates that are camped and i can pretty safely say they will all be the exits to high sec / coming into low sec. once passed these gates its very very very rare to hit a gate camp unless there actively chasing someone down.
Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#862 - 2012-08-24 03:05:44 UTC
drunk asfck wrote:
Tyraeil Starblade wrote:
They still need to do something about low sec pirates who just sit on gate with smartbombs and blow up shuttles and pods and poorly fit frigates that land on gate. It's probably the lamest way to get kills. I think having tougher sentry guns that force you off the gate isn't such a bad thing...

Fight at celestials instead.



Why?

Gate camps have been around in lo-sec for ever but now eve is sooo dumbed down and full whineing pansys they want ccp to change things to suit them

rember the old days were you actualy learnt from trying and not from crying

can camp 0.0 choke points entry point

can camp empire hubs and choke points

omfg theres a camp in lo-sec we must nurf these pesky piwates

carbares have all the tools needed to make life in lo-sec if they use they fcking heads jf's / covops / covop haulers / recons / t3's

there are thousends of players and hundreds corps that this will efect in a negative way the players/corps that actualy put time effort into liveing in lo-sec and not handed to them on plate


Camping is for PvPrs who cant PvP. Period. Unless it's part of some larger strategy for locking down a system in a war or other strategic goals, it's pretty useless. And if it were undone, I'm sure the unsubs from all the mad pirates would barely be felt, if at all.

In other words, it makes sense.
Frying Doom
#863 - 2012-08-24 03:06:48 UTC
What ever the number of gate camps the fact is that they detract from the usefulness of Lo-sec.

As to Usefulness it really does need a purpose other than Gate camping and FW.

The biggest question is 'Why do people want to go there?". All I can think of ATM is to get back out somewhere else.

Lo-sec needs changing, will the gate gun fix make it more useful? No idea but at least it is a change, if people allowed small changes like that one where a frig is actually useful but no ship can sit at the gate forever then maybe lo-sec might evolve into something.

At the moment lo-sec reminds me of primordial sludge, so much promise but at the moment it is just sludge.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
drunk asfck
Doomheim
#864 - 2012-08-24 03:13:42 UTC
But its not just about camping ive lived in losec for over three years and close on every fight be it solo or in gang hapens at the gate there is rare ocasion you catch a fck wit in plex/ belt but they are ganks but nerly ALL fights will hapen at a gate

Why do i av a feeling this Get a bear into losec fix has somthing to do with Dust and trying to get as many losec planets occupyed hmm

also could fck wits who have no clue or never been to losec please dont post you just look like idiots commenting on somthing u av no clue and that goes for csm also
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#865 - 2012-08-24 03:13:49 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
I live in low sec so I definitely know what I'm talking about. Last night there was a camp on at least one of the gates ot the three systems I was running trade through for about 90% of the two hours I was on.

Our corp used to operate in a high sec bubble in the middle of low sec and because the major routes in and out were constantly camped we moved almost all our activity out.

Maybe you need to spend more time in low sec.

Issler


I live in a highsec bubble that can only be reached by going through some lowsec is pretty far off of I live in lowsec.

although I would see why you would want better guns, farm like hell in your private pocket, and have safe transport out. I see what you did there.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
drunk asfck
Doomheim
#866 - 2012-08-24 03:48:42 UTC

[/quote]

I live in low sec so I definitely know what I'm talking about. Last night there was a camp on at least one of the gates ot the three systems I was running trade through for about 90% of the two hours I was on.

Our corp used to operate in a high sec bubble in the middle of low sec and because the major routes in and out were constantly camped we moved almost all our activity out.

Maybe you need to spend more time in low sec.

That is not liveing in losec omfg you realy have no clue do you with idiots like this in csm we are doomed
Frying Doom
#867 - 2012-08-24 03:53:49 UTC
drunk asfck wrote:



I live in low sec so I definitely know what I'm talking about. Last night there was a camp on at least one of the gates ot the three systems I was running trade through for about 90% of the two hours I was on.

Our corp used to operate in a high sec bubble in the middle of low sec and because the major routes in and out were constantly camped we moved almost all our activity out.

Maybe you need to spend more time in low sec.

That is not liveing in losec omfg you realy have no clue do you with idiots like this in csm we are doomed[/quote]
I have lived in lo-sec and came to the inescapable conclusion, Why bother.

The only reasons to be living there are you are either FW or inept at PvP and want to kill noobs and carebears who wander in.

Oh what a joy Lo-sec is right now

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
drunk asfck
Doomheim
#868 - 2012-08-24 04:07:28 UTC
Lol was quoteing issler

on my phone working nights it messed up the quote lol
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#869 - 2012-08-24 04:17:02 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
drunk asfck wrote:



I live in low sec so I definitely know what I'm talking about. Last night there was a camp on at least one of the gates ot the three systems I was running trade through for about 90% of the two hours I was on.

Our corp used to operate in a high sec bubble in the middle of low sec and because the major routes in and out were constantly camped we moved almost all our activity out.

Maybe you need to spend more time in low sec.

That is not liveing in losec omfg you realy have no clue do you with idiots like this in csm we are doomed

I have lived in lo-sec and came to the inescapable conclusion, Why bother.

The only reasons to be living there are you are either FW or inept at PvP and want to kill noobs and carebears who wander in.

Oh what a joy Lo-sec is right now[/quote]

Well you could also live there because you like the concept of pirating (like me). I don't claim to be a great PVPer, but I'm also not a chickenshit carebear...I want to fight and think war decs are lame. I like flying through space knowing every non blue in system is a threat. To me that is reason to live there. You are right though, if that is not what you are looking for, there probably is no reason to be in lowsec (excluding FW).

As for gate guns, every fight I've been part of has been at a gate, whether roaming or camping; excluding mission ganks; so what do you want, less camp on gates, willing to trade for more ganks?

James315 for CSM 8!
Mikaila Penshar
SISTAHs of EVE
#870 - 2012-08-24 04:24:52 UTC
k, so i was watching this nature show and all the action was happening at the watering hole, weird right? It was this place where every animal had to go eventually, so the hunters were looking for a kill there... i dunno if that means anything, but I thought i'd share that....

Oh, and another thing...

Gatecamps r fun, social things and eventually some actual numbers show up and there is a real fight happening- is this a bad thing? I mean really, what could be more boring than shooting rocks? I think they made that game back in the 70's ... they called it ASTEROIDS
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#871 - 2012-08-24 05:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tor Gungnir
I'm gonna need an Orca to fit all these gatecamper tears.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#872 - 2012-08-24 07:47:08 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
I live in low sec so I definitely know what I'm talking about. Last night there was a camp on at least one of the gates ot the three systems I was running trade through for about 90% of the two hours I was on.

Our corp used to operate in a high sec bubble in the middle of low sec and because the major routes in and out were constantly camped we moved almost all our activity out.

Maybe you need to spend more time in low sec.

Issler
Every post you make, only confirms just how clueless you are.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#873 - 2012-08-24 09:47:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
I used to live in a hisec island aswell Issler (solitude) I spent a lot of time plexing in the losec around and I didnt run into these lowsec permacamps(!!!!!). Maybe pirates have clocked onto what you and your band of merry idiots do in said island and are specifically camping you in?

Basically Issler youre starting to sound delusional let alone clueless.

Granted lowsec is in dire need of change I dont think taking a massive dump over lowsec pvp is what it needs.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#874 - 2012-08-24 09:51:20 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
I live in low sec so I definitely know what I'm talking about. Last night there was a camp on at least one of the gates ot the three systems I was running trade through for about 90% of the two hours I was on.

Our corp used to operate in a high sec bubble in the middle of low sec and because the major routes in and out were constantly camped we moved almost all our activity out.

Maybe you need to spend more time in low sec.

Issler


Ever think thats because you were in a high sec pocket with consistent through traffic, stop claiming your experience applies to everyone else unconditionally and try looking at lowsec as a whole, you know like the rest of us are doing.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#875 - 2012-08-24 13:08:20 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Ever think thats because you were in a high sec pocket with consistent through traffic,...


And of course most people are where traffic isn't.

Roll
alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
#876 - 2012-08-24 13:31:30 UTC
CCP really either wants people AFK mining in HS with no threat or in null... lowsec is nothing but a path from low to null...

I would say CCP could not come up with a worse idea but... I thought the new UI was the case... as always CCP is showing us they do not play this game or even understand it.

Ya see guys eve is dying... the eve we knew is dying... the new wow eve is coming.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#877 - 2012-08-24 13:35:48 UTC
alittlebirdy wrote:
CCP really either wants people AFK mining in HS with no threat or in null... lowsec is nothing but a path from low to null...

I would say CCP could not come up with a worse idea but... I thought the new UI was the case... as always CCP is showing us they do not play this game or even understand it.

Ya see guys eve is dying... the eve we knew is dying... the new wow eve is coming.

Don't be so pessimistic, go mine for a few hours. You'll feel better afterwards.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#878 - 2012-08-24 15:21:31 UTC
Ok so after running around in Low from Jita to Hek (Yes I survived without a podding much less a ship loss), there was a wonderful emptiness to the area.
One gate camp of obviousness (They really need to learn to space out to catch out bounds.)
And the rest of space had 14 people.
So uh yeah the issue is just getting through the hi-lowsec gates after which it just kinda goes phtt.
Also why wont you people let your poses run out of fuel!
I want to steal all your goodies so I dont have to earn them!
By doing industry!

Anyways lowsec needs a bigger draw the reduction in gate camping(ha hello 180km tornado of frigate ganking) will just simply mean there is now a possibility a tanked indie will escape instead of just getting shredded.
Which is nice.
If the idea is to reduce camping such that the victim has a realistic chance of escape I say it is good.
If it just turns camps into instalock alpha fests of nuclones then I say it is still broken.
(Seriously doubling the jump sphere randomization will solve a lot of the complaints!)
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#879 - 2012-08-24 15:46:49 UTC
alittlebirdy wrote:
Ya see guys eve is dying... the eve we knew is dying... the new wow eve is coming.


Can I haz your stuff? Twisted

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
drunk asfck
Doomheim
#880 - 2012-08-24 16:10:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Minmatar Citizen 76959458561
alittlebirdy wrote:
CCP really either wants people AFK mining in HS with no threat or in null... lowsec is nothing but a path from low to null...

I would say CCP could not come up with a worse idea but... I thought the new UI was the case... as always CCP is showing us they do not play this game or even understand it.

Ya see guys eve is dying... the eve we knew is dying... the new wow eve is coming.



youve got that the wrong way around m8

most of the pirates iv flown with in my 3-4 years in lo-sec like me LEFT 0.0 afta a number of years there becouse 0.0 is full egotistic fck wits that think they are ubber and orbit anchor point and press f1, and god forbit you enter they sanctuim or belt then they cry harder than a emp miner getting ganked

also why go 0.0 to fight for some allaince leader to get a tech moon

when i can farm fck wits at a gate in lo-sec get lucky drop go kill **** for week

so you see m8 to alot us lo-sec is our preferd home were we can do wtf we like when we like no CTA's no alarm clock ops no bubbles just our own fun

EDIT: i honestly belive this sentry gun buff has nothing to do with lo-sec pirate gate camps but more to do with opening lo-sec to carbare types to fill the lo-sec planets for Dusty's to fight over