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Just climbed into my first retreiver! Looking to try boost my isk.. What should I be mining?
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Jacqueline McGhee
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-23 19:10:41 UTC
I live around rens o:
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-23 19:12:49 UTC
In response to the part of the title "Just climbed into my first retreiver! Looking to try boost my isk.."

Get out of the retriever and get a mackinaw Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-23 19:22:55 UTC
Better yet, stop mining.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#4 - 2012-08-23 19:28:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinstar Colton
T2 Strip miners (Requires Mining V)
Mining Crystals (Requires *ore* processing III)
T2 MLU (Requires Mining Upgrades IV)

These will boost your mining yield about as high as it'll go in a retriever. The upgrade from retriever to Mackinaw takes awhile as you need Mining Barge V and Astrogeology V along with the Exhumers skill. (Unless they changed the requirement, correct me if I'm wrong). Since those two skills draw on very different attributes, chances are that one of them is going to take you even longer.

Other, indirect, methods for improving your ISK would be to get yourself perfect refining and trade skills.

Raw ore typically sells for *about* 10% less than the mineral value it refines into (at least it did in more stable markets, with mineral prices flying all over the place these days, that margin might be larger or smaller). Doing your own perfect refining will help you keep profits...

Trade skills, especially Broker Relations and Accounting, help reduce taxes and fees related to sell orders (you ARE using sell orders, right?)

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Jacqueline McGhee
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-23 19:32:07 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
T2 Strip miners (Requires Mining V)
Mining Crystals (Requires *ore* processing III)
T2 MLU (Requires Mining Upgrades IV)

These will boost your mining yield about as high as it'll go in a retriever. The upgrade from retriever to Mackinaw takes awhile as you need Mining Barge V and Astrogeology V along with the Exhumers skill. (Unless they changed the requirement, correct me if I'm wrong). Since those two skills draw on very different attributes, chances are that one of them is going to take you even longer.

Other, indirect, methods for improving your ISK would be to get yourself perfect refining and trade skills.

Raw ore typically sells for *about* 10% less than the mineral value it refines into (at least it did in more stable markets, with mineral prices flying all over the place these days, that margin might be larger or smaller). Doing your own perfect refining will help you keep profits...

Trade skills, especially Broker Relations and Accounting, help reduce taxes and fees related to sell orders (you ARE using sell orders, right?)


I was planning on just docking up..Right clicking and selling haha :o

Sorry but could you explain a little about sell orders? New to the market.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#6 - 2012-08-23 19:46:08 UTC
Mine kernite

Find ores here: http://eve-online.itemdrop.net/eve_db/universe/search/

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#7 - 2012-08-23 19:57:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/

Check the prices regularly. They shift as people use different ores.

The isk/m3 is what's important. You'll often see people, in belts, mining Omber. These people are what is known as ignorant. Omber is worth significantly less than more plentiful ore.


Anyway:

There are two ways to sell stuff in Eve (ignoring non-market options).

1: Sell to a buy order. This is a good way of getting quick cash. You'll pay sales tax. However, in most places it's also a good way to make significantly less isk. Buy orders are generally significantly less than the value. Not always the case.
2: Sell using a sell order. This takes more time. You'll pay sales tax, and also a brokers fee. But you can set the price you'll sell at. Be aware, if someone has a lower price set, they'll always sell before you. Regardless of which order a buyer clicks on.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Jacqueline McGhee
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-08-23 19:59:12 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/

Check the prices regularly. They shift as people use different ores.

The isk/m3 is what's important. You'll often see people, in belts, mining Omber. These people are what is known as ignorant. Omber is worth significantly less than more plentiful ore.



So should I ignore the "price" part?
Such as Veld sells for "16" in rens, I presume thats 16 per ore? isn't that pretty good?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#9 - 2012-08-23 20:03:47 UTC
Jacqueline McGhee wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/

Check the prices regularly. They shift as people use different ores.

The isk/m3 is what's important. You'll often see people, in belts, mining Omber. These people are what is known as ignorant. Omber is worth significantly less than more plentiful ore.



So should I ignore the "price" part?
Such as Veld sells for "16" in rens, I presume thats 16 per ore? isn't that pretty good?



You ignore the price part, because different ores are different volumes, while you always mine the same volume.

So Omber, while worth around 4 times more isk per unit, is 6 times larger per unit. so you'd make 2/3rds the isk.


That chart is based on perfect refining, and selling the resulting minerals at 'sell' prices. But it's a generally good rule of thumb.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Do'Mai
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-08-23 20:08:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Do'Mai
Steve Ronuken wrote:

You'll often see people, in belts, mining Omber. These people are what is known as ignorant. Omber is worth significantly less than more plentiful ore.


Or ... they could be mining the Omber for the Isogen because they need the mineral to build items. Blink
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#11 - 2012-08-23 20:13:14 UTC
Do'Mai wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:

You'll often see people, in belts, mining Omber. These people are what is known as ignorant. Omber is worth significantly less than more plentiful ore.


Or ... they could be mining the Omber for the Isogen because they need the mineral to build items. Blink


Could be.

Though they'd do better, generally, to mine veldspar, sell the trit, and buy the Isogen (ending up with more isk)

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Ogi Talvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-08-23 20:21:49 UTC
Mining is a boring activity. Novelty runs out fast.
Jacqueline McGhee
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-08-23 20:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacqueline McGhee
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
Mining is a boring activity. Novelty runs out fast.


I have a nice bunch of movies to watch so s'all good. And I have problems finding a pvp corp that actually goes out and gets kills and ISK.. Mining is my only option right now.

I got bored of lvl4's.. With mining I can just tab out
WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-08-23 21:19:03 UTC
Jacqueline McGhee wrote:
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
Mining is a boring activity. Novelty runs out fast.


I have a nice bunch of movies to watch so s'all good. And I have problems finding a pvp corp that actually goes out and gets kills and ISK.. Mining is my only option right now.

I got bored of lvl4's.. With mining I can just tab out


this bit made me laugh, you got bored of missioning so thought hey what else is there in eve that requires less input from me than this and wont bore me after a while? I KNOWZZZZ!!! MINING!!!!
Jacqueline McGhee
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-08-23 21:25:41 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
Jacqueline McGhee wrote:
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
Mining is a boring activity. Novelty runs out fast.


I have a nice bunch of movies to watch so s'all good. And I have problems finding a pvp corp that actually goes out and gets kills and ISK.. Mining is my only option right now.

I got bored of lvl4's.. With mining I can just tab out


this bit made me laugh, you got bored of missioning so thought hey what else is there in eve that requires less input from me than this and wont bore me after a while? I KNOWZZZZ!!! MINING!!!!


Thus I can tab out and do something more fun, I can't do that with missions, can I?
WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-08-23 21:27:16 UTC
doesnt that defeat the purpose of the game though?
Jacqueline McGhee
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-08-23 21:40:28 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
doesnt that defeat the purpose of the game though?


Not really. I'm doing it so I can make money to actually enjoy the game.
Ogi Talvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-08-23 22:42:09 UTC
You can enjoy the game from day 1. I don't know why you think you need billions to have fun?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-08-23 22:44:20 UTC
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
You can enjoy the game from day 1. I don't know why you think you need billions to have fun?


You're not going to make billions solo afk mining in a retriever P

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Jacqueline McGhee
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-08-23 23:28:14 UTC
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
You can enjoy the game from day 1. I don't know why you think you need billions to have fun?



Doing missions over and over again isn't what I'd call fun.
I can't afford any of the PVP ***** I'd like to fly. And I didn't say billions did I?
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