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Cloak's and afk cloakers
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Butzewutze
Doomheim
#261 - 2012-08-23 14:51:49 UTC
Via Shivon wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Via Shivon wrote:
first i am not crying
second im talking for myself and not my ally
third give me a just one tool to kill the ***** in the bomber when cloakt and i will change ship


Grab one or two people from the 9000 spacefriends you have and you'll have a counter/defense.



Oh and we do what? bubble all gates for 2 weeks maybe he wants to go out of the system on day?
i have made 500m in 3 month ratting because its ******* boring, so i dont give a **** BUT i would love to kill those cloakys.
even with all 9000, how do you get him? baiting? shure if he is stupid...
secret: you can not find him


Sounds like you have the same amount of braincells like an amobe. No, with your 9000gayfriends you still wont be able to kill him... but you can rat in safety because you have cover. Maybe you should see it from another perspective... even you were able to make 500 mil. easily -> that means there aren't enough cloakers around, eh?
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#262 - 2012-08-23 15:01:57 UTC
Ambush the AFK cloaker when he decloaks to attack a ship, obviously. Smile

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Signal11th
#263 - 2012-08-23 15:04:09 UTC
FFS not this again, nothing wrong with cloaks, cloaking or sitting there cloaked for intel purposes.

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BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#264 - 2012-08-23 15:27:55 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-

Compounding capacitor use per cycle.

Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use

Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.

Sound good?


No.. No we dont.
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Ginger Barbarella
#265 - 2012-08-23 15:28:39 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem.


No, we don't. Next?

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#266 - 2012-08-23 15:54:43 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-

...?


Who is we Tonto?

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Yamaria Ube
State War Academy
Caldari State
#267 - 2012-08-23 16:49:35 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-

Compounding capacitor use per cycle.

Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use

Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.

Sound good?


I think we should have a search drone that does a regular pattern sweep of the area, with the idea of being withing 2500m of every unit of space within a 250k range (at level 5), with the idea that it will uncloak cloakies. It should be reasonably slow, so that those who are really cloaky and not afk can avoid them. Only 1 drone active per ship.
Josef Djugashvilis
#268 - 2012-08-23 16:58:13 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Apo Lyptica wrote:
I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-

...?


Who is we Tonto?


I suspect it is a case of the 'Royal - We'

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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#269 - 2012-08-23 17:11:27 UTC
WE need a forum filter. Any post with AFK and Cloak in the same paragraph automatically gets deleted...
Arec Bardwin
#270 - 2012-08-23 18:36:02 UTC
AFK Cloaker wrote:
This.
Osabojo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#271 - 2012-08-23 18:51:41 UTC
You know, sometimes I just have to go to the bathroom. And maybe I'm going to be in there a while. I'd like to cloak my ship while I do that. Is that okay with you people??
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#272 - 2012-08-23 19:06:49 UTC
Pinky Denmark wrote:


As mentioned afk cloakers are never 100% always afk. but even while afk they ARE being rewarded:
  • People might stay docked due to fear - the afk cloaker are denying income to the enemy = reward

OR they can leave the system and rat "natural anoms and plex (or mine, whatever) like I do, denying the enemy the "reward" of my lost income.

Quote:

  • People get frustrated and give the cloaker an edge if he starts looking for kills. Easier kills = reward

    • Hard to get frustrated when I'm winning, which is what I'm doing when I leave system and keep the isk train running.

    Quote:

  • Have the enemy waste time trying to counter you while virtually 100% safe wears down the enemy = reward

    • The only thing that weighs me down is all the isk in my pockets, 25 to 35 mil isk per tick tend to do that.
    Quote:

    Patience is a huge factor in Eve but an afk cloaker doesn't have a time factor against him like people being cut off from activity. Yes the afk cloaker might not get isk and kills while actually afk, but the more he is afk the easier it is when he is actively chasing targets...

    Pinky


    I just find this kind of defeatist/entitled thinking to be so sad. My corp has an upgraded -0.81 system, its great, i love it, it has a station. It gets camped, I take my 2 ratting toons refit at pos or in station and leave to empty systems my alliance hasn't rented out, no biggy.

    I could stay in my ratting system, fit cyno to my ship and have my boys on alert for the fun to pop off, and I've done that, but it's easier to just leave and allow the "afk cloaker" to spend part of his $15 a month claoked in a no empty system while i keep having fun. If he's awake and follows me, all good, its a chance to pop him at a gate (and my mates can go back to ratting/mining).

    It's so easy it just takes a SMALL amount of effort (lol, jumping through a gate lol, some effort) and yet renter after renter (it's always you rent-bears) complains about afk cloakers.....
    NEONOVUS
    Mindstar Technology
    Goonswarm Federation
    #273 - 2012-08-23 20:30:38 UTC
    Fun thing to fix local and afk cloaking.

    Cloaking kickbans you from all chats for duration of cloak+some time modifiable by skill.
    Oh and disable their ability to use probes as well(I think this still exists)

    Meanwhile I will be making all the rats scurry in low with my fearsome Imicus of Trolling and its Sister's Combat probes of failed spot checks.


    Also why are there so many cynos being lit in Caldari lowsec?
    Seems like every system has one.
    Ivy Wolf
    Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
    #274 - 2012-08-23 21:00:36 UTC
    Hello gentlemen, I'm a first class AFK cloaker please check my bio for credentials.

    I'm taking notes here on the whiny crybabies and soon you'll get to see me on your systems for days on end.

    Ta-ta
    Jett0
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #275 - 2012-08-24 01:29:08 UTC
    Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    Occasionally plays sober
    Alavaria Fera
    GoonWaffe
    #276 - 2012-08-24 01:34:12 UTC
    Jett0 wrote:
    Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    We could spam "local" more efficiently. Aww yeah, let's do it ~

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    Jett0
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #277 - 2012-08-24 02:02:05 UTC
    Alavaria Fera wrote:
    Jett0 wrote:
    Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    We could spam "local" more efficiently. Aww yeah, let's do it ~


    I like where your head's at.

    And you can AFK multiple systems at a time. But no one would know whether to pay attention or not...

    Occasionally plays sober
    Alavaria Fera
    GoonWaffe
    #278 - 2012-08-24 02:09:05 UTC
    Jett0 wrote:
    Alavaria Fera wrote:
    Jett0 wrote:
    Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    We could spam "local" more efficiently. Aww yeah, let's do it ~


    I like where your head's at.

    And you can AFK multiple systems at a time. But no one would know whether to pay attention or not...

    Yeah, I could actually do some camping or maybe covert hotdropping, yay ( ^___^ )/

    Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
    Lugia3
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #279 - 2012-08-24 14:19:29 UTC
    No.

    "CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
    Ayeson
    State War Academy
    Caldari State
    #280 - 2012-08-24 14:34:38 UTC
    Jett0 wrote:
    Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA


    Best. Chat. Ever.

    I ♥ the orthrus