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Earning enough isk to buy subscription items, within the trial period

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person persony
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-23 07:26:27 UTC
Can game time cards be bought by players without first buying a subscription, and if so, is it possible, if not for a first-time player, over several trials of gaining experience in playing EVE be able to earn enough isk within the trial period? I will likely have at least 4 or 5 hours a day available.
WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-08-23 08:23:53 UTC  |  Edited by: WonkySplitDemon
I'm going to save a lot of pointless discussion and say No. It's not possible, absolutely not.

Edit: oh and stop being a cheapskate and buy the game! It's only £9.99 a month ffs.
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-08-23 09:02:05 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
I'm going to save a lot of pointless discussion and say No. It's not possible, absolutely not.

Edit: oh and stop being a cheapskate and buy the game! It's only £9.99 a month ffs.
What's a meager fee for you can be two meals missing in a month for someone else, don't be an ass because some people want to play for free but you chose to pay.

OP: it is possible to play for free and pay your subscription with PLEX, but it takes a lot of time to know the game well enough to know how and if your only goal is to grind ISK all the time you're online to maintain your account subbed, you will soon give up the game. If you really find it fun to farm ISK to pay your sub, well, others may point you in the right direction, but EVE is much more fun when you don't need to worry for that and can enjoy your time online shooting people and seeing pretty explosions.

If you don't care for repetitive PVE content, then look for FW complexes, it's the current ISK fountain and there's a thread on this very section of the forum explaining how to make buckets of ISK with a gunless ship.

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WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-08-23 10:41:57 UTC
If someone cant afford 9.99 a month to play a video game they really should be looking at their priorities in life :)

However, you miss the point of the original post, the OP was specifically asking whether it is possible to earn enough isk within the TRIAL period to plex the account. This is almost certainly not possible. If you disagree then please enlighten me!
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#5 - 2012-08-23 11:24:00 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
If someone cant afford 9.99 a month to play a video game they really should be looking at their priorities in life :)

However, you miss the point of the original post, the OP was specifically asking whether it is possible to earn enough isk within the TRIAL period to plex the account. This is almost certainly not possible. If you disagree then please enlighten me!


Somebody once gave me 500m for talking to him. Can be done on trial account. Big smile As for the OP's question: it is not possible to gain PLEX in the trial period through solo gameplay, not without major contributions from other players. Ways to obtain PLEX strictly through solo gameplay will open up after a few months, but by then it will be an unfun grind or terribly risky. I found great pleasure in actually coming up with a plan to make that kind of money. I must inform you that this plan is more or less just an online gamble Big smile and some months I make PLEX, some months I don't.

With the right connections you can make PLEX every month, but you'd need a character that can actively contribute to the activities that make such ISK, and actually WANT to play for profit. Best of luck though, it gets more fun if you stick around a while longer.
WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-08-23 11:35:02 UTC
Quote:
Somebody once gave me 500m for talking to him. Can be done on trial account. Big smile As for the OP's question: it is not possible to gain PLEX in the trial period through solo gameplay, not without major contributions from other players. Ways to obtain PLEX strictly through solo gameplay will open up after a few months, but by then it will be an unfun grind or terribly risky. I found great pleasure in actually coming up with a plan to make that kind of money. I must inform you that this plan is more or less just an online gamble Big smile and some months I make PLEX, some months I don't.

With the right connections you can make PLEX every month, but you'd need a character that can actively contribute to the activities that make such ISK, and actually WANT to play for profit. Best of luck though, it gets more fun if you stick around a while longer.


I appreciate I extraordinary circumstances where a large donation is received from another player this may make it possible, however I am not even sure if a trial account is able to use a plex? Anywho a its pretty much impossible to earn enough isk in one month as a noob to plex the account never mind in a 14 or 21 day trial. Think of all the restrictions a trial account has on it...
koffeee
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-08-23 12:24:47 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
Quote:
Somebody once gave me 500m for talking to him. Can be done on trial account. Big smile As for the OP's question: it is not possible to gain PLEX in the trial period through solo gameplay, not without major contributions from other players. Ways to obtain PLEX strictly through solo gameplay will open up after a few months, but by then it will be an unfun grind or terribly risky. I found great pleasure in actually coming up with a plan to make that kind of money. I must inform you that this plan is more or less just an online gamble Big smile and some months I make PLEX, some months I don't.

With the right connections you can make PLEX every month, but you'd need a character that can actively contribute to the activities that make such ISK, and actually WANT to play for profit. Best of luck though, it gets more fun if you stick around a while longer.


I appreciate I extraordinary circumstances where a large donation is received from another player this may make it possible, however I am not even sure if a trial account is able to use a plex? Anywho a its pretty much impossible to earn enough isk in one month as a noob to plex the account never mind in a 14 or 21 day trial. Think of all the restrictions a trial account has on it...



yes you can upgrade to a full account on a trial with a plex.

you can earn a plex, i did in highsec not going to say how but it is possible with good market research and some great websites.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#8 - 2012-08-23 12:28:02 UTC
Check the Making ISK guide for some simple ideas. There are many more ways of making ISK in the game, but that list should give you plenty of ideas. Always remember that you make money faster by getting other people to make it for you.
WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-08-23 12:47:18 UTC
koffeee wrote:
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
Quote:
Somebody once gave me 500m for talking to him. Can be done on trial account. Big smile As for the OP's question: it is not possible to gain PLEX in the trial period through solo gameplay, not without major contributions from other players. Ways to obtain PLEX strictly through solo gameplay will open up after a few months, but by then it will be an unfun grind or terribly risky. I found great pleasure in actually coming up with a plan to make that kind of money. I must inform you that this plan is more or less just an online gamble Big smile and some months I make PLEX, some months I don't.

With the right connections you can make PLEX every month, but you'd need a character that can actively contribute to the activities that make such ISK, and actually WANT to play for profit. Best of luck though, it gets more fun if you stick around a while longer.


I appreciate I extraordinary circumstances where a large donation is received from another player this may make it possible, however I am not even sure if a trial account is able to use a plex? Anywho a its pretty much impossible to earn enough isk in one month as a noob to plex the account never mind in a 14 or 21 day trial. Think of all the restrictions a trial account has on it...



yes you can upgrade to a full account on a trial with a plex.

you can earn a plex, i did in highsec not going to say how but it is possible with good market research and some great websites.


Why dont you want to say? Tell us or it didnt happen.
koffeee
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-08-23 13:30:28 UTC  |  Edited by: koffeee
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
koffeee wrote:
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
Quote:
Somebody once gave me 500m for talking to him. Can be done on trial account. Big smile As for the OP's question: it is not possible to gain PLEX in the trial period through solo gameplay, not without major contributions from other players. Ways to obtain PLEX strictly through solo gameplay will open up after a few months, but by then it will be an unfun grind or terribly risky. I found great pleasure in actually coming up with a plan to make that kind of money. I must inform you that this plan is more or less just an online gamble Big smile and some months I make PLEX, some months I don't.

With the right connections you can make PLEX every month, but you'd need a character that can actively contribute to the activities that make such ISK, and actually WANT to play for profit. Best of luck though, it gets more fun if you stick around a while longer.


I appreciate I extraordinary circumstances where a large donation is received from another player this may make it possible, however I am not even sure if a trial account is able to use a plex? Anywho a its pretty much impossible to earn enough isk in one month as a noob to plex the account never mind in a 14 or 21 day trial. Think of all the restrictions a trial account has on it...



yes you can upgrade to a full account on a trial with a plex.

you can earn a plex, i did in highsec not going to say how but it is possible with good market research and some great websites.


Why dont you want to say? Tell us or it didnt happen.


why would i want to tell you how i did it? there is loads of ways and countless possibility's find your own way. you asked if it was possible.

Hope is free, information costs.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-08-23 14:55:18 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: yes, but not realistically.

When you start you dont have access to the high paying activities (or at least you will struggle to do them). Give that a PLEX cost around 470mil atm it means a lot of non stop grinding to get the ISK.

I highly discourage to make 'play to pay' your main focus. It will end up in the following cycle:
1. Grind ISK during this month.
2. Buy a PLEX with ISK
3. Add gametime for next month.
4. Go back to 1. for the next month.

It will also limit your progression as besides the money for the PLEX you need extra for skillbooks, ships and modules.

And in the end most people earn 10$ quicker then they earn 500mil ISK.

Edit: as you are on a trial it further limits you as you also have some trial limitations.

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Akanamon
Ralph's Monestary
#12 - 2012-08-23 15:03:22 UTC
person persony wrote:
Can game time cards be bought by players without first buying a subscription, and if so, is it possible, if not for a first-time player, over several trials of gaining experience in playing EVE be able to earn enough isk within the trial period? I will likely have at least 4 or 5 hours a day available.


While it may be possible, it would take ALL of the fun out of the game for you.

Later in your Eve life, it will not be nearly as difficult, but for the time being, you would be wise to just pay for it, get your skills up, and then start figuring out how to buy Plexes for game time. In the beginning, though, the effort will drive you insane, and falling 50-100 mill short of buying one before your stuff runs out could be disappointing enough to make you quit the game.

Sell something for $40. Buy a three month sub, and after that three months is up, you should have enough skills put together to really grind out ISK.

Right now, it's likely a losing endeavor unless you have 10-12 hours a day to play the game for crappy isk rewards.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#13 - 2012-08-23 15:13:44 UTC  |  Edited by: mxzf
Yes, it is possible, but it's not easy and (as others have said) it runs the risk of burning you out of the game.

Making enough ISK for a PLEX monthly requires you to make 16-17M ISK each day for the entire month (more like 20M if you want to be able to miss a day or two here and there, and it's 24M ISK/d if you want to do it in the space of a 21d trial).

Your best bet would be to get someone who will split a buddy invite reward with you if you use their buddy invite. It'll cost you one month worth of cash, but it'll give you 51d of gametime for one months worth of cash and get your halfway to your first PLEX. That gives you a bit of time to ramp up your ISK production and get the skills to make more ISK.

Edit: the most common ways I've seen people make that much money in the amount of time you have are either exploring or trading. Exploring you're relying on RL skills of being decent at probing and lots of luck in the drops, trading you need to know how to buy low and sell high and do well at that. It's quite possible, but it's not easy.
WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-08-23 15:22:40 UTC
its even harder when you cant even train industrial ships to move product lol, also can only do level 2 missions as lvl 3 requires a BC, also not trainable on a trial account.

tdlr from thread: is it theoretically possible? Yes. Can you realistically manage it? Not a hope in hell. Koffee is chatting ****
Lukriss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-08-23 15:26:32 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
I'm going to save a lot of pointless discussion and say No. It's not possible, absolutely not.

Edit: oh and stop being a cheapskate and buy the game! It's only £9.99 a month ffs.
What's a meager fee for you can be two meals missing in a month for someone else, don't be an ass because some people want to play for free but you chose to pay.



You wont notice 1/45th of your monthly food missing, I can promise you that, also you can get food much cheaper than £5/meal.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#16 - 2012-08-23 15:28:14 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
its even harder when you cant even train industrial ships to move product lol, also can only do level 2 missions as lvl 3 requires a BC, also not trainable on a trial account.

tdlr from thread: is it theoretically possible? Yes. Can you realistically manage it? Not a hope in hell. Koffee is chatting ****


No, it is possible. You just have to think outside the box and not grind missions/mine. The four most obvious ways are charity, scamming, trading, and exploring. But I'm sure there are a few other ways to make it happen too, you just have to be smart.
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#17 - 2012-08-23 15:31:20 UTC
Scamming and aggressive market trading are the only two methods I can think of. The former requires luck, the latter lots more skill than a brand new player on a trial would have.

My suggestion: Bite the bullet and buy the game and a 3 month subscription. At the end of the 3 months + trial time, it is much more reasonable to have enough to buy a PLEX...but even that isn't a guarantee depending on how you spend those 3+ months.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-23 16:01:14 UTC
hmmm consensus seems to be: get a job and pay the tenner tightarse
Jack bubu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-08-23 19:53:37 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
hmmm consensus seems to be: get a job and pay the tenner tightarse

You seem utterly offended by the idea someone might play EVE for free (while someone else pays for him)

are you jealous or something?

As others have pointed out, yes its possible but requiers alot of knowledge about the game, good social connections or simply even artistic talents (some people sell banner, signatures, logos or even video intros for isk)

through normal PVE farming however i dont think its possible.
Jim Era
#20 - 2012-08-23 20:08:16 UTC
hey how bout you hop in my pod. I can teach you how to make that much money
;]

Wat™

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