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VOTE FOR THE OBAMA!!!

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stoicfaux
#61 - 2012-08-20 21:41:58 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Obama is a professional politician who had almost no record when he took office, and hasn't done much to establish himself since. His biggest "achievement" is the medical reforms that conveniently don't really start until after the election...so he can claim victory on the passing without having to face the repercussions of any failures of the plan. He's the epitome of politics for the sake of politics, and I fully expect him to simply pander to his voters and attempt to secure his legacy rather than doing what is best for America.

Romney is a fair-weather conservative looking to appeal to "the base" after years as one of the most liberal Republicans around. He's so obviously playing a part that I don't believe a word he says, and his disconnect with the problems of the poor and middle class make it hard to trust him to consider the not-rich majority in his economic policies.

We're in for four more years of politics as usual, no matter who we choose.

True, also, a GOP president would have made the same decisions as Obama in regards to the bailouts, stimulus, etc..

The real problem is the GOP has decided to be the "party of No!" and shut down the legislative branch. The whole reason for having 400+ congressmen, 100 senators, 9 supreme court justices and a president is to ensure that people compromise when getting things done. Instead the current GOP has this my way or the highway approach to democracy, which isn't working and is going to bite them on the arse in the future.

As for Romney, I actually feel sorry for him. RomneyCare appears to be working in Massachusetts, making it potentially one of his greatest achievements, and he's being forced to disown it by his own party. And yeah, the "some of my best friends own NASCAR teams" was the nail in the coffin for the middle class, IMO.


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Dos Naari
Doomheim
#62 - 2012-08-20 21:43:32 UTC
I'll vote when someone runs on the platform of complete decriminalization of cannabis, and the reappropriation of the military budget towards domestic healthcare and education. Until then I don't see how any intelligent individual can look at all this paint by numbers spin the wheel of issues politiking with a straight face, much less support it, with their more or less symbolic vote.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-08-20 21:43:36 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:


I bet you voted Palin in 2008.



You betcha.
stoicfaux
#64 - 2012-08-20 21:43:47 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Generals4 wrote:
Torothin wrote:
Especially if you love families pumping out welfare babies, not having to work at all, and living off of tax payers hard earned money!

ROMNEY 2012!!!


I'll bait.

Yeah vote for the gay hating, women hating unpatriotic nutbag who hides his money in tax havens.


But he has magic underwear+3!

Yes, but the Tea Party is making him wear a Jockstrap of Devouring instead...

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#65 - 2012-08-20 21:45:53 UTC
Avrila Inyante wrote:
1) ever heard of "the lesser of two evils?"
Sure neither ones a good choice, but one MAY **** us over while the other already has.


"Lesser" is exactly the adjective that applies to both. It pairs well with "mediocre" too.


Avrila Inyante wrote:

2) am I the only one who gets annoyed when europeans comment on American politics in an obnoxious, superior and condescending way?!? I'm legit not trying to troll here, but seriously.... What makes you have all the answers about our country, while we are apparently a bunch of bumbling idiots? Last I checked, Europe was just as corrupt, only instead of the government taking 30 percent of your paycheck they take like 70... Fix your own **** before telling us how to fix ours.

Sheesh I needed to say that


I don't know how many EU states even have a true democratic government. Not on mine for sure, we cannot even vote who we want in the parliament, it's just lobbysts and mafia-puppets concerting the next disaster.

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Maddie Gunslinger
Doomheim
#66 - 2012-08-20 21:46:22 UTC
I hope Romney wins, USA hasn't had a complete moron at the helm for a few years now.

What? No...
Selinate
#67 - 2012-08-20 21:47:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
Jada Maroo wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:


I bet you voted Palin in 2008.



You betcha.



I don't get it... at least Obama can make complete sentences and articulate what he believes in.

Palin actually is a slobbering idiot who McCain only brought onto the ticket because she's a conservative woman. Other than that, he might as well have picked a door knob since her political views consisted of "I'M CONSERVATIVE AND THAT'S WHAT'S RIGHT FOR MOM'S", and didn't go much further than that other than managing to show her stupidity dozens of times just by opening her mouth....
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#68 - 2012-08-20 21:50:04 UTC
Maddie Gunslinger wrote:
I hope Romney wins, USA hasn't had a complete moron at the helm for a few years now.

Romney's far from a moron. He'll be as capable a president as Obama...which isn't saying much.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2012-08-20 21:59:38 UTC
Selinate wrote:



I don't get it... at least Obama can make complete sentences and articulate what he believes in.

Palin actually is a slobbering idiot ...


You've clearly never seen Obama try to talk without his teleprompter.

That said, I'll take verbally clumbsy realist over a teleprompted master orator communist any day.
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#70 - 2012-08-20 22:05:43 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Romney is just as bad as Obama, but for other reasons.

You Yanks are gonna have a rough 4 years ahead of you irregardless of the outcome.


No doubt. I'm ready to go dig up Abe Lincoln, even dead he could do a damn sight better than either candidate. Added bonus of presiding over a fractured nation, so this wouldn't even be a problem for him.

God help US.

John Hancock
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2012-08-20 22:10:59 UTC
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Romney is just as bad as Obama, but for other reasons.

You Yanks are gonna have a rough 4 years ahead of you irregardless of the outcome.


No doubt. I'm ready to go dig up Abe Lincoln, even dead he could do a damn sight better than either candidate. Added bonus of presiding over a fractured nation, so this wouldn't even be a problem for him.

God help US.


ya Abe the Butcher was a great at fixing a divided nation ... 650,000 dead.

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Selinate
#72 - 2012-08-20 22:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
Jada Maroo wrote:


You've clearly never seen Obama try to talk without his teleprompter.

That said, I'll take verbally clumbsy realist over a teleprompted master orator communist any day.


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Witness what is wrong with our political system people when there's actually a large amount of people who actually think this way... He's also pretty damn good at speaking without a teleprompter...
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#73 - 2012-08-20 22:19:06 UTC
From a European standpoint, the whole US is in my opinion, nothing more than a 3rd world nation, where the so called 'democracy' is being fed propaganda until your eyes bleed, fake promisses and choosing the lesser of two evils, with no option whatsoever for any realistic change in this.

Lobbyists of large corporations vie for passing laws for themselves, and sue anything that gets in their way to death, while News media say this is all 'ok' because it's for the good of the country and the average citizen, while on the other hand actual basic civil and human rights are being abolished to 'combat the enemy', or simply ignored and swept under the rug.
And anybody lokoing under said rug is labelled a traitor and hounded across the world.

Meanwhile, for well over a decade and a half, all main crises that the world has faced all originated in the US. Mortgage, oil, you name it. Several of them can even be pointed directly at american institutions that litterally abuse every thing they can in the name of greed, steamrolling over anything in their way, putting more money and power in the hands of the rich elite, while tearing up what is left of the middle and lower classes means of support and livelyhood.

Yes.. such a great country is the US.. Just be glad I don't consider violence an option to solve problems.

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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-08-20 22:22:37 UTC
It must be Monday.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
stoicfaux
#75 - 2012-08-20 22:26:53 UTC
edit: Deleted. Too snarky even for me.

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Frying Doom
#76 - 2012-08-20 22:30:37 UTC
The United States of America, an experiment in democracy.

Well you stuffed that one up good and proper, at least it can now be known as "The United States of America, a failed experiment in democracy."

Maybe now we don't have to hear about how other countries need to follow their example.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Josef Djugashvilis
#77 - 2012-08-20 22:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Torothin wrote:
Especially if you love families pumping out welfare babies, not having to work at all, and living off of tax payers hard earned money!

ROMNEY 2012!!!


Please keep your moronic views out of Eve forums.

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Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2012-08-20 22:33:01 UTC
Selinate wrote:
He's also pretty damn good at speaking without a teleprompter...



Maybe, if you consider speech to be studdering and the tiresome repetition of "uhhhhh."
Josef Djugashvilis
#79 - 2012-08-20 22:33:38 UTC
Torothin wrote:
I smell a communist in this thread....


No sir, you smell BS, yours.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#80 - 2012-08-20 22:36:31 UTC
Torothin wrote:
This is eve general chat. This upcoming election has a significant impact on the economy which in turn will affect eve subscriptions. In no way shape or form am I trolling. I'm trying to have a debate.


Basemant dwellers vote?

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