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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2012-08-18 21:11:50 UTC
Tiger Would wrote:
Ah youh saying you can jus a google for new emerging valid gameplay within EvE.....

Howy cow......I have somah goggling to do


I'm sorry. I have an awful tendancy to put too much faith in the general Human population. I was for a moment, under the impression that people could think for themselves.

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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-08-18 21:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-08-18 21:17:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2012-08-18 21:17:38 UTC
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Shall we get on topic?

reasonable question posted, either post a idea, or just leave it for what it is.



Reasonable answer: Search engine of choice, research the extremely limited limitations of the game & use brain.
Oh wait I forgot, that requires :effort:

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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-08-18 21:19:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Nyreanya
Serenity Labs
#26 - 2012-08-18 21:20:46 UTC
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:

But answer me this:

If you do not know the entire scope of EvE yet.....and lets be honest, who did when they subscribed?
If I look at me personally, sure I read the guides back than, figured out the mechanics.....but thats just such a small part.

I dare to say, many do not have a clue what so ever in regards to depth, politics and propaganda....
I think it is this that make to many people think that EvE should be played as it is played now. Hereby obstructing the visibility of the fact that anything goes, it is a sandbox.

I disagree. How is playing EVE 'as it's played now' a bad thing? I would argue that 'as it's played now' is just about as sandbox as you're going to get. How would you improve it?

Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:

And why is it exactly that EvE has trouble keeping subscribers

What? Subscription numbers are steady or rising consistently ever since launch.

Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:

You see this advertisement of emergent gameplay. one day you join.
You think....I am going to be a big industrialist. (for example)

Than it does not look like that gameplay at all. It looks like there is no room for you. It looks like you can only join larger entities but never become one. Which in a large part is fueled by propaganda and trolling (like in this thread)

You do not get the feeling you can actually become anything you want.

I dare to say that hurts the number new subscribers actually having a stab at it.

I couldn't disagree more. I have never felt this, not even in the first couple years of playing. Sure, if your goal is to manufacture some obscure t2 rig that no-one uses, or to build titans, you're going to be disappointed. But you can achieve anything you want to with enough work. Can't form your own powerful alliance? Work your way up the ranks of an existing one. Can't compete with other manufacturers? Figure out what their doing and copy/improve on it. People mining all your roids? Move to another system/security status. Anyone who gives up and unsubs because 'there is no room' for them clearly didn't look hard enough.

[/sarcasm]

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2012-08-18 21:21:58 UTC
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Ah youh saying you can jus a google for new emerging valid gameplay within EvE.....

Howy cow......I have somah goggling to do


I'm sorry. I have an awful tendancy to put too much faith in the general Human population. I was for a moment, under the impression that people could think for themselves.


Thats why I am only making new, valid, emergent gameplay visible without filling in the gaps.
I do believe people can think for them selves.

Your only awful tendency is you do not seem to be able to look outside your own framework.
What goes for you must go for everyone else.

It does not work like that!






Please tell me all about how coming up with your own game play idea's is so hard that you have to create a thread asking people to post already visible idea's.

Been to C&P lately? There's some pretty cool stuff in there that clearly must not be visible to anyone.

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Arkturus McFadden
Anukar
#28 - 2012-08-18 21:22:49 UTC
I find watching my ship slowly rotate endlessly for hours as valid gameplay.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#29 - 2012-08-18 21:30:35 UTC
Make new players spawn in an active nullsec system in a titan with all skillpoints,but a clone that removes all of them when the titan is destroyed.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.

Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-08-18 21:31:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-08-18 21:35:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2012-08-18 22:18:35 UTC
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Ah youh saying you can jus a google for new emerging valid gameplay within EvE.....

Howy cow......I have somah goggling to do


I'm sorry. I have an awful tendancy to put too much faith in the general Human population. I was for a moment, under the impression that people could think for themselves.


Thats why I am only making new, valid, emergent gameplay visible without filling in the gaps.
I do believe people can think for them selves.

Your only awful tendency is you do not seem to be able to look outside your own framework.
What goes for you must go for everyone else.

It does not work like that!






Please tell me all about how coming up with your own game play idea's is so hard that you have to create a thread asking people to post already visible idea's.

Been to C&P lately? There's some pretty cool stuff in there that clearly must not be visible to anyone.


I would only need to explain there is something wrong with your reading comprehension.
C&P and cool stuff in one sentence.......if there is any trollfest its C&P.

And as you can see, I mean, You are here right, I have no trouble at all creating my own gameplay.

Are you just going to keep repeating arguments that where already rendered invalid, or do you actually have anything to add?


So people using their brains to come up with their own idea's instead of having idea's handed to them is invalid? Great logic you have there. Let us know how it works out.

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Tiger Would
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-08-18 22:52:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger Would
no

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would

Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-08-18 22:56:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-08-18 22:57:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2012-08-18 23:04:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Jaq....he chooses to repeat you can find something with google that does not exist.
He wishes to uphold that google is a great replacement for using your brain.

Also he want to make it absolutely clear, he did not understand what your initial post is about.

He maintains there is no reason to have a EvE university for example or a tutorial if you follow the "logic" he is applying.
He is in a way saying he has patented the only truth that exists in a sandbox.

.....shhh....dont laugh.....ya I know.....barely able to keep a straight face myself.



Why?


It is probably important to him.


Anyways, New players or corp entities, just mail me if you like to look into this further and need some pointers.
We are more than happy to get you on your way.



Its worse,

He is lecturing about brains and coming up with ideas while he was not able to create avatar name without copying it from someone else. Maybe he now thinks that everyone will think he is the Mike Azariah from the blog "A Missioneer in EvE".

*shrug*


It was actually based off Dingo ate my baby
I've never even heard of that other player, but I clearly must educate him in proper spelling. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

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Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise
#37 - 2012-08-18 23:05:23 UTC
Having a hard time deciding if this thread was just Lost in Translation or Lost in Space.. What?
Tiberius Sunstealer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-08-18 23:55:18 UTC
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Ow common, EvE has many intelligent people

Obviously not you since you're saying that on the forums.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2012-08-19 00:40:35 UTC
If you want new and emergent gameplay, you have to make it happen.
Part of the thrill is coming up with new tactics, strategies, and techniques yourself.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Tiger Would
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-08-19 00:59:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger Would
no

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would