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Off grid boosting alts trying to evade the nerfbat
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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#141 - 2012-08-17 02:02:28 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
I rather enjoy giving random local miners orca buffs but that only works cause off grid buffs work :(


Oh well guess I was buffing the competition anyway..

At least charge them some isk for the privilege! Smile

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#142 - 2012-08-18 05:07:24 UTC
James 315 wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
I rather enjoy giving random local miners orca buffs but that only works cause off grid buffs work :(


Oh well guess I was buffing the competition anyway..

At least charge them some isk for the privilege! Smile

Gangwarp them into a few smartbombing battleships. You might make 100mil or more ~~

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#143 - 2012-08-18 08:26:08 UTC
What's wrong with you people.


The most EvE-ish solution:


On-grid booster jamming. Makes command ships have to be on grid and close to the fleet otherwise the fleet cannot communicate with it.

Takes the "if you have it, everybody will need it" issue, that leads to the "once everybody can get it, what's the point of having it at all?" problem.


Put skills, rigs, and implants around the boost-dampening abilitiy too. Make it costly for both sides.

Maybe some racially based boost disruption too. Gallente dampens them, shortens the boost range (come closer....). Caldari can hit a cycle that totally locks it down (hopefully not permanent or it's back to "because of Falcon". Amarr could disrupt the signal, reducing the effectiveness. Minmatar could lob an old disk brake rotor at the command ship and maybe break the transmitter.


Balance through new content...go figure.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#144 - 2012-08-18 11:16:36 UTC
High sec and null sec carebears whining about off grid boosters because they don't know how to train scanning alts up. More news at 11!


P.S. Blob more guys, it's kind of cute.
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#145 - 2012-08-18 11:46:32 UTC
Vilnius Zar wrote:
While I'm all for removing off-grid gang links it would have to be preceded by balancing the different command ships first. The Damnation can get a whole lot more EHP than the Vulture and while I fly Amarr that still not "fair".


You ignore those caldari sonbitches and focus on fixing Gallente leadership first. Not just the command ships, but everything. I mean, come on, Information Warfare? If you want to bring EWAR, you'll bring a falcon, which can jam errything just fine without links. Switch it to something like Damage Warfare and then make the Astarte and the Eos actually viable boats.

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#146 - 2012-08-18 11:58:14 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Vilnius Zar wrote:
While I'm all for removing off-grid gang links it would have to be preceded by balancing the different command ships first. The Damnation can get a whole lot more EHP than the Vulture and while I fly Amarr that still not "fair".


You ignore those caldari sonbitches and focus on fixing Gallente leadership first. Not just the command ships, but everything. I mean, come on, Information Warfare? If you want to bring EWAR, you'll bring a falcon, which can jam errything just fine without links. Switch it to something like Damage Warfare and then make the Astarte and the Eos actually viable boats.

That....that made me shiver with excitement. I must agree, do this for Gallente. MOAR DEEPZ PL0X. Twisted
Max Khaos
Republic Military School
#147 - 2012-08-18 12:15:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Khaos
Another one sided argument ....

Theres more to this game that running around in T1 frigates complaining about OGB

So what you going to do about ships like the Rorqual that by design have to OGB while
they cannot move when in deployed mode .... that's right .... doh!

As I have already said .... remove all OGB apart from the Rorqual !
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-08-18 12:17:50 UTC
Max Khaos wrote:
Another one sided argument ....

Theres more to this game that running around in T1 frigates complaining about OGB

So what you going to do about ships like the Rorqual that by design have to OGB while
they cannot move when in deployed mode .... that's right .... doh!

As I have already said .... remove all OGB apart from the Rorqual !

No, carebear. Either remove them all or remove none. I would personally love to see Rorqs at a belt and wouldn't mind taking the OGB hit. Pirate
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#149 - 2012-08-18 12:35:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Takeshi Yamato
Max Khaos wrote:
Another one sided argument ....

Theres more to this game that running around in T1 frigates complaining about OGB

So what you going to do about ships like the Rorqual that by design have to OGB while
they cannot move when in deployed mode .... that's right .... doh!

As I have already said .... remove all OGB apart from the Rorqual !


Right, the anger is focused on non-mining links.

Even if OGB was removed, you could still put a tier 1 BC with mining links on grid and continue using the Rorqual for ore compression.

It doesn't make any sense though that the Rorqual should be required to use its Industrial Core in order to provide bonuses. That could be changed.
Bane Loppknow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2012-08-18 12:35:28 UTC
I agree, actually, and I have an off-grid booster alt. The main problem I have with removing off-grid bonuses is with the Rorqual. In order to do its job effectively (compress ore + provide bonuses) it needs to be able to project system-wide bonuses. The only way around this is to rebalance it. If I were at the wheel, I'd shift it so that the Orca (which is supposed to be an industrial command ship) has superior bonuses, and reduced cargo space. Then I'd increase T1 (and by extension T2) industrial cargo space overall to compensate. Suicide gankers and haulers are happy because their squishy indies can haul more, miners are happy because they can still maximize efficiency with one rorq one orca, allows off-grid boosting to be removed.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#151 - 2012-08-18 13:38:10 UTC
Mutant Caldari wrote:
High sec and null sec carebears whining about off grid boosters because they don't know how to train scanning alts up. More news at 11!


P.S. Blob more guys, it's kind of cute.



If you like that much playing alone you should play Tetris or Pacman, not an MMORPG On Line. So when OGB is gone are you going to pollute this forum with your tears or are you just going to man up and actually start playing with other players?

brb
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#152 - 2012-08-18 13:40:28 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Mutant Caldari wrote:
High sec and null sec carebears whining about off grid boosters because they don't know how to train scanning alts up. More news at 11!


P.S. Blob more guys, it's kind of cute.



If you like that much playing alone you should play Tetris or Pacman, not an MMORPG On Line. So when OGB is gone are you going to pollute this forum with your tears or are you just going to man up and actually start playing with other players?

The best part about you assuming this is the fact that I don't have a booster alt and when I run in gangs, we usually don't use links. So try again, little carebear, and keep whining about OGBs because you don't know how to train a scanning alt or no one in your fleets know how to train scanning on their mains. Lol
Selinate
#153 - 2012-08-18 15:19:19 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Boosting alts, pff…

Real pilots have 15M leadership SP on their mains. P


Real pilots don't play with alts at all....
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#154 - 2012-08-18 15:23:16 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Boosting alts, pff…

Real pilots have 15M leadership SP on their mains. P


Real pilots don't play with alts at all....


Real pilots don't exist.

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Lili Lu
#155 - 2012-08-18 15:26:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lili Lu
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
Max Khaos wrote:
Another one sided argument ....

Theres more to this game that running around in T1 frigates complaining about OGB

So what you going to do about ships like the Rorqual that by design have to OGB while
they cannot move when in deployed mode .... that's right .... doh!

As I have already said .... remove all OGB apart from the Rorqual !


Right, the anger is focused on non-mining links.

Even if OGB was removed, you could still put a tier 1 BC with mining links on grid and continue using the Rorqual for ore compression.

It doesn't make any sense though that the Rorqual should be required to use its Industrial Core in order to provide bonuses. That could be changed.

You are correct. If a mining op wants those Rorqual boosts put it on the line. It would probably only be used that way with belts that need to be scanned down. Meaning scouts and directional scanning wanted for the op as well. That is a good thing for the game, more people, more alts, more roles.

As for the not moving part, Titans have that feature as well. It's necessary to make them killable. If the Rorquals is too harsh it could be adjusted. But at least that rorqual should be at risk like everything else.

People need to stop thinking so much about the supply and more about the demand. Pretty explosions create demand. Demand is a good thing.Smile
Selinate
#156 - 2012-08-18 16:46:02 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Boosting alts, pff…

Real pilots have 15M leadership SP on their mains. P


Real pilots don't play with alts at all....


Real pilots don't exist.


Buzz Aldrin might disagree with you there..
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#157 - 2012-08-18 18:15:34 UTC
Selinate wrote:
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Boosting alts, pff…

Real pilots have 15M leadership SP on their mains. P


Real pilots don't play with alts at all....


Real pilots don't exist.


Buzz Aldrin might disagree with you there..


And I suppose Buzz Aldrin has 15m leadership SP, does he? With no alts?

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Selinate
#158 - 2012-08-18 18:42:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Selinate wrote:
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Boosting alts, pff…

Real pilots have 15M leadership SP on their mains. P


Real pilots don't play with alts at all....


Real pilots don't exist.


Buzz Aldrin might disagree with you there..


And I suppose Buzz Aldrin has 15m leadership SP, does he? With no alts?


No. He just piloted a mother fuckin' space ship at one point. He didn't use alts either, he had other astronauts with him. Like a true pilot.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#159 - 2012-08-18 18:43:18 UTC
Mutant Caldari wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Mutant Caldari wrote:
High sec and null sec carebears whining about off grid boosters because they don't know how to train scanning alts up. More news at 11!


P.S. Blob more guys, it's kind of cute.



If you like that much playing alone you should play Tetris or Pacman, not an MMORPG On Line. So when OGB is gone are you going to pollute this forum with your tears or are you just going to man up and actually start playing with other players?

The best part about you assuming this is the fact that I don't have a booster alt and when I run in gangs, we usually don't use links. So try again, little carebear, and keep whining about OGBs because you don't know how to train a scanning alt or no one in your fleets know how to train scanning on their mains. Lol



This was entertaining Lol

Would you mind answering the question? -when OGB is off will you quit?

brb
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#160 - 2012-08-18 19:22:14 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Mutant Caldari wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Mutant Caldari wrote:
High sec and null sec carebears whining about off grid boosters because they don't know how to train scanning alts up. More news at 11!


P.S. Blob more guys, it's kind of cute.



If you like that much playing alone you should play Tetris or Pacman, not an MMORPG On Line. So when OGB is gone are you going to pollute this forum with your tears or are you just going to man up and actually start playing with other players?

The best part about you assuming this is the fact that I don't have a booster alt and when I run in gangs, we usually don't use links. So try again, little carebear, and keep whining about OGBs because you don't know how to train a scanning alt or no one in your fleets know how to train scanning on their mains. Lol



This was entertaining Lol

Would you mind answering the question? -when OGB is off will you quit?

Adapt or die, something little carebears can't seem to get a grasp on. It wouldn't be that hard for me to adapt to such a change considering how rarely I actually have links in my gangs. Lol