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Ensign X
#21 - 2012-08-17 23:20:15 UTC
I pity the fools that pay real money for their subscriptions or PLEX.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#22 - 2012-08-18 01:43:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Cutter Isaacson
xavier69 wrote:
I remember when plex and subs where the same price, everything thus far in this thread is bullshit said by fanbois.

The Truth Is So Much Simpler.

CCP Is GREEDY


the increase in isk price is a game based thing the fact a sub costs $14.99 but a plex cost $17 or $19 dollars is ccp cashing in on greed they know people will pay that extra price just like those fail fooking moncoles another greed ploy by a failing game that will be FTP in 2 years tops=)

sorry the only way i would ever come back to ccp fan fair is if there was a ***** slap a dev booth, id pay money for that =)

PS: the game was good minus the last 3 years =)



Since it appears you lack the ability to do simple research, allow me to explain. A PLEX costs more than a standard subscription for one reason; It can be used to convert a trial account in to a full account. If you can remember when you first signed up for EVE, you paid not only the standard monthly subscription fee, but also a $/£5 activation charge.

This charge is built in to a PLEX, thus negating the need for any cash transaction to take place and allowing more people to convert trial accounts to full accounts. Something that is especially handy for people who at the end of their trial might not have the cash available to activate it.

There is also the added bonus that it can be legally converted in to ISK via the in game market. The in game value of a PLEX is determined by the age old issue of supply and demand, and so is set by the players themselves. Hope that clears things up for you.

Lastly, you may want to think about your attitude. Announcing that you want to pay money to physically assault a member of staff because of a game shows poor judgement and possible mental instability. Neither of which should be aired on a public forum.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#23 - 2012-08-18 02:00:50 UTC
I wouldn't complain about PLEX being "too high." You're lucky to be paying for a pay-to-play game using in-game currency at all. Cool

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Just Lilly
#24 - 2012-08-18 03:27:37 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
I pity the fools that pay real money for their subscriptions or PLEX.


Well, it takes 2 days of running sleepersites..if even that, to afford a plex ingame.
So it's not hard by any means to not have to pay for your gameplay.

However, paying for a sub or a plex with real money, supports further development of the game
and even the release of new titles in the future.

If everyone kept grinding ingame isk to support their gameplay, it wouldn't take long before
the game became F2P with a P2W twist and then die out.

Or even worse, Activision or EA takeover...Shocked


So, by paying my sub with RL money, I support the future of EvE Online and CCP. Blink

And may it last for decades to come!
If not, it was well worth the journey! Big smile

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#25 - 2012-08-18 04:44:01 UTC
Just Lilly wrote:
If everyone kept grinding ingame isk to support their gameplay, it wouldn't take long before
the game became F2P with a P2W twist and then die out.

Who is selling all the plexes that are being bought for isk again?

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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#26 - 2012-08-18 04:47:50 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Just Lilly wrote:
If everyone kept grinding ingame isk to support their gameplay, it wouldn't take long before
the game became F2P with a P2W twist and then die out.

Who is selling all the plexes that are being bought for isk again?


Confirming that nobody buys the GTCs or PLEX in the first place so that they can be sold.

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Tiberius Sunstealer
Drunk Nights Good Fights
#27 - 2012-08-18 04:52:08 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
lol wat?

He was trying to start a conspiracy and get all the tinfoil hat wearers in this thread but forgot the major part of PLEX, CCP get their money as soon as the PLEX is bought.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#28 - 2012-08-18 04:56:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Virgil Travis wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Just Lilly wrote:
If everyone kept grinding ingame isk to support their gameplay, it wouldn't take long before
the game became F2P with a P2W twist and then die out.

Who is selling all the plexes that are being bought for isk again?

Confirming that nobody buys the GTCs or PLEX in the first place so that they can be sold.

Pfft, I know right.

CCP actually has a really nice system set up here, I'll give them due props/credit for that.

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Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-08-18 05:08:35 UTC
Amateratsu wrote:
Plex Price 70% more expensive than 1 month subscriptionShocked

Someone [CCP Maybe?] explain why a plex costs 70% more than a 1 month subscription?


Because they can?
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-08-18 08:28:29 UTC
Idris Helion wrote:
Amateratsu wrote:
Plex Price 70% more expensive than 1 month subscriptionShocked

Someone [CCP Maybe?] explain why a plex costs 70% more than a 1 month subscription?


From a purely business perspective, a monthly sub is worth more than a Plex purchase because it's more predictable and allows more accurate forecasting from quarter to quarter. Expensive PLEX may be CCP's way of nudging people back to monthly subs.

CCP may want to dry up some of the PLEX in-game as well. PLEX usage may skew CCP's revenue numbers too much because of the lag between buying a PLEX and actually consuming it for game-time.


Er players control plex prices, not ccp.
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
#31 - 2012-08-18 09:09:13 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Amateratsu wrote:
Plex Price 70% more expensive than 1 month subscriptionShocked
Someone [CCP Maybe?] explain why a plex costs 70% more than a 1 month subscription?

1) It shouldn't really be THAT much more expensive, only about 33% more expensive
2) Each PLEX carries the capacity to activate a trial account, something that's usually charged at ~33% of a month's sub price (~15 USD vs ~20 USD).
3) All PLEX offers in multiples of PLEX (as opposed to a single PLEX) should actually come closer to the price of a monthly sub (only about 14% higher).

So, due to the UK VAT of 20% and the current USD-GBP exchange rate of ~1.57 USD for 1 GBP, right now:
* 1 month of sub should cost ~11.5 GBP (15% more than it does now) -> you're actually benefiting from this !!!
* one single PLEX or a trial account activation should cost ~15.3 GBP (10% less than it costs now) -> not really such a huge deal,
* the 2xPLEX pack should cost about 26.8 GBP, multiple packs similarly, at around 13.4 GBP per PLEX

So, the only reason it costs so much more is because you're paying too little on the basic sub, not that you're paying too much on PLEX.
HA !!!


So basicly everyone who buys plex is paying the extra cost for the abillity to activate a trial account or convert the plex to ingame currency.

The moral of the story- If you use plex to keep your accounts subbed, your paying more than you need to, unless you buy them ingame with isk.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#32 - 2012-08-18 09:18:31 UTC
In the US the prices are only (1/3) larger normally.

Weird.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-08-18 14:09:27 UTC
Amateratsu wrote:
Plex Price 70% more expensive than 1 month subscriptionShocked

Someone [CCP Maybe?] explain why a plex costs 70% more than a 1 month subscription?


"inflation" or "deflation" , all of these terms can be translated to something easier: how much dumb are ready to pay

Say "thx"

brb
xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
#34 - 2012-08-18 22:54:53 UTC
This review hits this game 100%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US92PR1tI1o

Ps: I say what i want and yes i would pay for Dev slapping or dunking booth at the fan fair anyone else with a real job would have been fired along time ago these jokers are lucky as hell

simple and short answer rewind 3 years, keep the ship models and new music player other than that the rest of the improvements are crap
Just Lilly
#35 - 2012-08-18 23:09:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Just Lilly wrote:
If everyone kept grinding ingame isk to support their gameplay, it wouldn't take long before
the game became F2P with a P2W twist and then die out.

Who is selling all the plexes that are being bought for isk again?


Yes, my reasoning was flawed Blink
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Janet Patton
Brony Express
#36 - 2012-08-18 23:57:00 UTC
Doesn't matter how much CCP sells PLEX for, they could charge for $50 a piece. The market would adjust because the players would decide what the value of RL currency vs 30 days game time is in ISK.

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Ravan Hekki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-08-19 00:03:22 UTC
Djana Libra wrote:
player market, you choose to buy at that price.
dont like it dont buy it, if no one buys price will go down.

economics aint that hard to understand



This
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-08-19 00:21:37 UTC
Djana Libra wrote:
player market, you choose to buy at that price.
dont like it dont buy it, if no one buys price will go down.

economics aint that hard to understand


I don't understand Sad

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Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#39 - 2012-08-19 10:15:29 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Djana Libra wrote:
player market, you choose to buy at that price.
dont like it dont buy it, if no one buys price will go down.

economics aint that hard to understand


I don't understand Sad


Ya most 99% don't.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#40 - 2012-08-19 11:10:31 UTC
Amateratsu wrote:
Djana Libra wrote:
player market, you choose to buy at that price.
dont like it dont buy it, if no one buys price will go down.

economics aint that hard to understand


I get my plex from shattered crystal in us dollars which works out to around £11.50 per plex, but at £7.50 per month i'm seriously concidering a 1 year subBig smile


Pay by annual installments, then at least any isk you earn is yours to 'waste' as you see fit'

Pvp eats my iskies at an alarming rate.

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