EVE General Discussion

Mo' isk, mo' problems. Personally I'd love to see PLEX double or triple in price.

I am mortified that I created a thread that prompted this cretin to post in.

I don't know what is more base, the fact that I created a thread that it attracts post from creatures like this, or that that the creature actually sullied the thread with a post.

Oh where do I buy this mining barge with a 'few hours' worth of Ore hold?

Its Aurum, NEX store, and CCP's clever scheme of allowing PLEXes to be haulable.


Inspired by the craptastic Korean Nexon cash shop (hence the name NEX)

Redeeming plex makes CCP more money as they no longer have to provide for an game time and instead give the redeemer a

few pixels that cost virtually nothing to copy.

Believe it or not microtransactions, despite being stupid to a normal player, is a valid source of profit.

People will pay money to buy pointless cosmetic items for their games (AKA TF2 HATS SYNDROME) - you can tell who these people are by looking at the ugly pipehole on their faces.

Why else do you think CCP implemented the ability to haul PLEXes out of the station? They knew clearly that there are morons who would transport PLEXes in haulers and get ganked.

A good chance that those plexes would be destroyed and gone forever, and making them more money as they do not have to provide any service for destroyed PLEX.

As a result we have what is called a Non Gametime Sink.

That is the destruction of PLEX from being ganked and having it redeemed for Aurum.

Now instead of PLEX being just used for gametime it is split into 3 different sinks.


The supply of PLEX has remained the same, but its rate of expenditure has tripled, causing price to go up.

Folks have theorised that CCP would not like having too much PLEX in-game, as it represents an accounting liability.

I believe that this is true to a certain extent, but that it is far less worrisome for CCP than your average company. The extra, or marginal, cost of providing the game and server capacity for one extra player should be rather small compared to their current expenditure. This contrasts with a different company providing a physical product, where the costs are more linear.

If players suddenly create a thousand extra active accounts by utilising in-game PLEX, CCP will probably manage without the quality of play dropping too dramatically. Unless it was done deliberately in a co-ordinated fashion by a single group (at prohibitive cost), CCP would see it coming as their numbers spiked, and have some time to plan ahead.

Plus, PLEX are freely traded in a market they can control as much as they wish. If there is a surge in PLEX-fuelled accounts, the traders selling those PLEX's are going to jack up the price pretty quick. This will have the effect of slowing any sudden surge in server demand. CCP can count on a certain amount of enlightened self-interest by the PLEX traders.

On the negative side for CCP, they don't know when the debt will be called in, and so they probably have to provide a certain amount of ongoing spare capacity, which we all benefit from while there is unused credit floating around. They can probably safely assume it's not all going to be called in at once, but there is always the chance of getting caught out.

On the plus side for CCP, they get their hands on our money, at a premium, well ahead of the service being called upon. Just sticking it in a bank account will earn them even more money. I'm not saying they do this, just that they have the opportunity to earn a return on the money.

I suspect they've priced it so they turn a profit, even allowing for a certain chance of the unexpected. A tidy profit will no doubt salve the frazzled nerves of their accountants when it comes to deal with the the liability PLEX represents.

As others have said, PLEX is a rather nifty setup by CCP, which I have to agree with.

The bubble has burst. PLEX below 500 m at Jita (487 m buy). I suspect CCP's PLEX sale helped, but bubbles have this tendency to burst all on their own.

Hope all you speculators did not get caught too badly.

If you think that there was nothing wrong with making 1 billion isk a day for killing a total of 60 rats with 10 other people in highsec, then I don't know what to tell you.

Who cares about the price of plex?

This is just a internet game. It is not like you guys are part of CCP, or employees. It is about 15 bucks a month, and you don't have even to pay it.

Buy a mack and go to mine ice, after all, pirates lost theirs fun

As a old toon just returning, let me add my thought's(probably outdated)


I think a major problem is just the PLEX in the first place.

This started with ETC and just seems to have got worse, I really do think there is something objectionable to a player replacing in-game losses with out-of game money.

It means no matter how skill fully u may play, daddy can buy PLEX for his TOON and replace losses that in-game would take week's or months.

That's my take, fire away...

I respect your argument.

To play devil's advocate, what if 'daddy' doesn't have a ton of disposable time on his hands to recoup that ISK, but he does have a chunk of disposable cash with which to buy GTCs / PLEX and that can help to keep him engaged and active in-game with his mates?

To me, that seems like a fair trade as I'd rather see more active people in-game and doing stuff rather than have potentially valuable mates quit because they can't afford the time to grind up ISK for pew pew ships.